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Koalawalawala Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 84 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 1:24 am Post subject: Macs that go to sleep but never wake |
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On my PowerBook 1GHz, any kernel after 2.6.3-benh2 causes a crash when I put the poor thing to sleep. I haven't read a thing about it in the forums. Is no one else afflicted?
I'm using pbbuttonsd v.0.5.11, apmd v.3.2.1_p4.
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amitofu n00b

Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 30
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Same here on a Titanium PowerBook 500MHz. I don't know what the deal is. Though at least it sleeps unlike my 15" Aluminium PowerBook 1.25GHz . |
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ralph Advocate


Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 2001 Location: Hamburg
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Same Problem here on my ibook when using 2.6.4, 2.6.5 kernels. Trying to put it to sleep causes a kernel oops and that is it.
I don´t know what causes the problem but at least I´m not alone. _________________ The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows.
- Frank Zappa |
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micron Guru


Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 411 Location: Bergamo, Italy
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 7:41 am Post subject: |
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For the g4 ibook: actually we don't konw how to restart the ati chipset after a sleep. I've heard that benh is going to obtain this informations from ati's engineers as soon as possibile.
For the g4 pbook: I think it has the same problem of G4 ibook, but with another video card.
The only thing we've to do is wait...  _________________ ~ "Progress is merely a realisation of utopias" ~
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amitofu n00b

Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 30
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Micron, since you seem to be informed on this sort of thing, do you have any idea what the status of sleep on the Aluminiun PowerBooks is?
Is there a mailing list or some place I can monitor for information on this? Thanks. |
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ralph Advocate


Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 2001 Location: Hamburg
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info micron.
The strange thing is that I´m having this problem on a g3 ibook and sleep works fine up to kernel 2.6.3-benh2. _________________ The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows.
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terry n00b


Joined: 27 Jul 2002 Posts: 64 Location: Korea Seoul
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Sorry for my poor english...
I am not sure that's same as my case.
4 days ago
I had re setting my kernel (2.6.4-pegasos) for using my digital camera(nikon coolpix 4300) and usb audio(xitel hifi-link dg2). with hotplug and alsa-dirver.
After setting , I can use them all everything fine.
but, I know my kernel has problem when sleep mode.
about, 2 or 3 time re setting kernel. that problem has gone.
I am not sure which kernel part make that happen.
I just check my kernel log, but I don't remember.. and
I try to remove useless part from kernel. Serial IDE-cdrom(I am using SCSI emulater.) and so on.
I just suspect under somthing I2C hardware bus support even if that stay modules, but not sure.
After that all thing work fine with camera and usb audio.
My iBook is G3 600Mh
gcc version is 3.2.3 20030422
pbbuttonsd version is 0.5.11
x11 is xorg-11 6.7.0
kernel ppc-development-sources-2.6.4 |
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micron Guru


Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 411 Location: Bergamo, Italy
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:29 am Post subject: |
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terry wrote: | My iBook is G3 600Mh
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On G3 machines sleeps works fine.
amitofu wrote: | Micron, since you seem to be informed on this sort of thing, do you have any idea what the status of sleep on the Aluminiun PowerBooks is?
Is there a mailing list or some place I can monitor for information on this? Thanks. |
I don't know exacltly the status of this work...
All the infos I know come from people talking directly with Benh. I'll ask him how to stay informed without adding a sendmail into my cron
I'll let you know _________________ ~ "Progress is merely a realisation of utopias" ~ |
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ralph Advocate


Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 2001 Location: Hamburg
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:35 am Post subject: |
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micron wrote: | terry wrote: | My iBook is G3 600Mh
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On G3 machines sleeps works fine.
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No it doesn´t. At least not for me using any kernel from 2.6.4 upward. _________________ The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows.
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micron Guru


Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 411 Location: Bergamo, Italy
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:41 am Post subject: |
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ralph wrote: | No it doesn´t. At least not for me using any kernel from 2.6.4 upward. |
I don't know what kernel works at 100% on G3 machine because I have a G4 one.
Searching on google and on this forum I've always read that sleep works as under macosx, maybe you've some problem with DRI accelleration... but I'm only supposing, I'm not sure...
Try a search in this forum and you'll get lot of topics about G3 laptops and sleep  _________________ ~ "Progress is merely a realisation of utopias" ~ |
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ralph Advocate


Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 2001 Location: Hamburg
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:46 am Post subject: |
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No, sorry that´s not what I meant. (Didn´t make myself clear probably).
Sleep on G3 ibooks works fine, but only up to kernel 2.6.3.
It is broken in newer kernel versions, that is my problem. _________________ The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows.
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micron Guru


Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 411 Location: Bergamo, Italy
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 10:59 am Post subject: |
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ralph wrote: | Sleep on G3 ibooks works fine, but only up to kernel 2.6.3.
It is broken in newer kernel versions, that is my problem. |
Now I've understand your problem
Here's what answered Benh to me:
Behn wrote: | I've started reverse engineering the MacOS driver since ATI doesn't seem
to be as responsive as they used to be, but this will take some time. I'm
sure it will be noisy enough when that works, but you can still monitor
the linuxppc-dev or debian-ppc lists for announces. |
This isn't a good news... danmed ATI!!  _________________ ~ "Progress is merely a realisation of utopias" ~ |
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xavier10 Guru

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 449 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:51 pm Post subject: this is sad news indeed... |
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The ATI hardware is really a problem for linux users on Albooks.
Could we sum up all the subsequent difficulties :
- no video acceleration. What can we expect there ? Last time I checked, the news were bad also (long wait before it is supported)
- sleep mode ? I did not expect the ATI hardware to suck it up...
What else ?
More information about the video acceleration ?
Regards,
Xavier |
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micron Guru


Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 411 Location: Bergamo, Italy
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: this is sad news indeed... |
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xavier10 wrote: | More information about the video acceleration ? |
I'm using an ibook G4 with an ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 and I'm successfully using the video accelleration.
Code: | glxgears
3159 frames in 5.0 seconds = 631.800 FPS
3203 frames in 5.0 seconds = 640.600 FPS
3144 frames in 5.0 seconds = 628.800 FPS
3159 frames in 5.0 seconds = 631.800 FPS
3193 frames in 5.0 seconds = 638.600 FPS
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I don't know what kind of video card you're using, but with mine things aren't so bad...
Try a search on this forum and you'll surely find lots of informations  _________________ ~ "Progress is merely a realisation of utopias" ~ |
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xavier10 Guru

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 449 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 7:29 pm Post subject: Radeon 9600 |
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I got a Radeon 9600... Newer so probably better but less supported !
I am sure it is a good card. However, I almost never use MacOS so I cannot use
video acceleration.
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Xavier |
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BlueShift Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 04 Jun 2002 Posts: 114 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:21 am Post subject: |
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ralph wrote: | No, sorry that´s not what I meant. (Didn´t make myself clear probably).
Sleep on G3 ibooks works fine, but only up to kernel 2.6.3.
It is broken in newer kernel versions, that is my problem. |
I'm having the same problem here. Does anybody know of a fix yet? I can't find anything in the forums.
Many thanks,
Jan. |
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