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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:27 am    Post subject: Does systemd still need openrc? Reply with quote

I converted to systemd some time ago, with a fresh installation and have "-openrc" set in my make.conf file, yet updating emerges have installed openrc and busybox on my computer. Can any more informed person advise if both or either of these programs are necessary, or can I remove them without any catastrophic result?

I do not use a gnome or kde base, but a mongrelised system comprised of e16, with bits of xfce4, and see no reason why openrc should be installed.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave it. It appears that it's part of @system, even when make.profile -> gnome/systemd.

Anyway it's just not a Gentoo box without openrc installed. I don't think it amounts to much disk space anyway...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes:-- I notice that any provisional attempt to remove it results in a warning that it is part of one's profile.
It does, however, as far as my limited understanding goes, not seem to have any practical use. I have
wondered also, whether the "/etc/conf.d" and "/etc/init.d" files are still necessary, but believe systemd
service files make reference to some of them.

I do also find it rather irritating that an "etc-update" deals with generally uneeded"/etc/conf.d" files, but
not systemd *.service files.

I suppose that Linux is still in a state of transition to a "full" systemd.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gcyoung,

gcyoung wrote:
I suppose that Linux is still in a state of transition to a "full" systemd.

Some distros are. Others, like Gentoo, give you a choice.

Its been a while since I followed the systemd/openrc thing but systemd used to need a single file from openrc.
That file was split out of openrc, so it depends on the version of openrc you have if you still need it or not.

If you still need openrc and you remove it, your system will no longer start, so its easy to test :)
You will need to boot a CD/USB and chroot back in to fix it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
gcyoung,

gcyoung wrote:
I suppose that Linux is still in a state of transition to a "full" systemd.

Some distros are. Others, like Gentoo, give you a choice.

Its been a while since I followed the systemd/openrc thing but systemd used to need a single file from openrc.
That file was split out of openrc, so it depends on the version of openrc you have if you still need it or not.

If you still need openrc and you remove it, your system will no longer start, so its easy to test :)
You will need to boot a CD/USB and chroot back in to fix it.


It is/was emerge/portage that require{s,d} a file from openrc, removing openrc would leave portage completely broken. I cba to find the bug report but it had been open since 2011 iirc.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GFCCAE6xF,

Ah yes. I don't have a systemd install to test on but I recall it being fixed.
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