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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:19 pm    Post subject: [SOLVED] Is kernel 4.14.7 stable or not? Reply with quote

I just made a world update and gentoo sources 4.14.7 have been installed. However, at the gentoo sources page here it is still marked as testing. Is this a bug or it is just the case that the site has yet to be updated? More important, should I wait until the site is updated before compiling and installing the new kernel? Thank you all.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you think it is considered stable on your system? With the right ACCEPT_KEYWORDS setting for that package, Portage could pull a testing version onto an otherwise stable system. What is the output of emerge --pretend --verbose =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.14.7?

You should compile and install the new kernel immediately if you are affected by any of the security bugs fixed in that version. Otherwise, you can defer it until a convenient time. Gentoo's stabilization marker is an approximation of whether other users have found notable bugs in that kernel. If no such bugs are found, it's very likely that the eventual 4.14.7 kernel with the Gentoo stable marker will be exactly the same sources you already installed.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, eix tells me it is stable, the web page is not updated, trust what portage tells you.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is stable as portage says but has at least one issue with virtualbox:
Code:

make modules_install
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depmod: WARNING: /lib/modules/4.14.7-gentoo/misc/vboxpci.ko needs unknown symbol vfs_write


Virtualbox ver. 5.1.26
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberhoffman wrote:
It is stable as portage says but has at least one issue with virtualbox:
Code:

make modules_install
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depmod: WARNING: /lib/modules/4.14.7-gentoo/misc/vboxpci.ko needs unknown symbol vfs_write


Virtualbox ver. 5.1.26

You should unmak virtualbox-5.2.2
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok then, I will proceed to install it. Since for now I dont have virtualbox installed I suppose it will be ok... Thank you all! PS:I will mark this as solved.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fedeliallalinea wrote:
cyberhoffman wrote:
It is stable as portage says but has at least one issue with virtualbox:
Code:

make modules_install
....................................
depmod: WARNING: /lib/modules/4.14.7-gentoo/misc/vboxpci.ko needs unknown symbol vfs_write


Virtualbox ver. 5.1.26

You should unmak virtualbox-5.2.2


Thanks a million, it works!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberhoffman wrote:
Thanks a million, it works!

Here bug in virtualbox bugtracker
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fedeliallalinea wrote:
cyberhoffman wrote:
It is stable as portage says but has at least one issue with virtualbox:
Code:

make modules_install
....................................
depmod: WARNING: /lib/modules/4.14.7-gentoo/misc/vboxpci.ko needs unknown symbol vfs_write


Virtualbox ver. 5.1.26

You should unmak virtualbox-5.2.2


I was googling this for hours today, thanks a-bunch...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My system pulled also kernel 4.14.7 in, today even 4.14.8-r1, but neither of them is marked as stable on packages.gentoo.org or when looking at it in eix.


My package.accept doesn't contain the kernel.

Is the kernel now stable for everyone, but Gentoo didn't mark it yet, and only Portage pulls it?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spargeltarzan wrote:
My system pulled also kernel 4.14.7 in, today even 4.14.8-r1, but neither of them is marked as stable on packages.gentoo.org or when looking at it in eix.

Site has hardware issue and isn't updated https://bugs.gentoo.org/634708
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spargeltarzan,

You need to run eix-update.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah sorry, I forgot it.

a very-short newcomer question: what is the difference between emerge --sync and eix-sync? eix-sync also invokes emerge --sync I saw... Before I upgrade, I personally use emaint --sync
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spargeltarzan wrote:
ah sorry, I forgot it.

a very-short newcomer question: what is the difference between emerge --sync and eix-sync? eix-sync also invokes emerge --sync I saw... Before I upgrade, I personally use emaint --sync
eix-sync calls "emerge --sync" and "eix-update" IIRC
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noob question: If 4.14.8-r1 is stable (I also pulled that in on a world update), why is it named -r1? I thought that notation was for "release candidate"?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jroth wrote:
Noob question: If 4.14.8-r1 is stable (I also pulled that in on a world update), why is it named -r1? I thought that notation was for "release candidate"?


https://bugs.gentoo.org/641818

There was an e1000e network issue is the reason for the bump and the other kernels removed.

4.14 is also the super long term stable kernel so that's the reason it was marked stable I'm guessing.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fedeliallalinea wrote:
cyberhoffman wrote:
It is stable as portage says but has at least one issue with virtualbox:
Code:

make modules_install
....................................
depmod: WARNING: /lib/modules/4.14.7-gentoo/misc/vboxpci.ko needs unknown symbol vfs_write


Virtualbox ver. 5.1.26

You should unmak virtualbox-5.2.2

Just for information now version 5.1.30 compile with kernel 4.14 because is added patch virtualbox-modules-5.1.30-udp.patch.
It seems backportable also to version 5.1.26.

Reference:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/641950
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jroth wrote:
Noob question: If 4.14.8-r1 is stable (I also pulled that in on a world update), why is it named -r1? I thought that notation was for "release candidate"?


It is not, r1 t is more like 'revision 1'. Typicallu used for my revision of the packages that do not warrant version increment. Release candiates usually have rc1 etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmpogo wrote:
jroth wrote:
Noob question: If 4.14.8-r1 is stable (I also pulled that in on a world update), why is it named -r1? I thought that notation was for "release candidate"?


It is not, r1 t is more like 'revision 1'. Typicallu used for my revision of the packages that do not warrant version increment. Release candiates usually have rc1 etc.


Ok, that makes sense. So 4.14.8-r1 is in fact a stable kernel? If so I'll start compiling it.
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