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huva
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:52 pm    Post subject: general firmware question Reply with quote

Hi,

I am running windows 10 on my laptop and running a Gentoo image with Virtualbox. If I were to just install a standalone Gentoo on my laptop with no other OS like win10, how would I get embedded firmware or flash updates? I know the kernel will handle most of the firmware/driver stuff but is it worthwhile to keep win10 on a separate partition for anything embedded like flashing the BIOS where my Lenovo utility will do that. Is it only the BIOS that gets flashed usually? Any help on this point would be appreciated so I can think about the advantages/disadvantages in the future as I'm getting comfortable with Gentoo and would like to use it on a separate machine.

Sorry this may be a dumb question because I think most of anyone running Gentoo probably does not have Win10 installed but figure I ask anyways. Thank you all!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi huva,

It depends on the manufacturer of your laptop. There are manufacturers who have bootable iso with firmware update or in case of HP and some Acer even integrated into the bios to update with newer version.

So if you could be more specific of what laptop you have, we might help you more.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huva,

There are no dumb questions but be on your guard for dumb answers.

Firmware flashing isn't always a windows thing. Often its a bootable image of some sort or even a DOS program.
It varies from firmware to firmware. The DOS variants usually work with FreeDOS.

BIOS firmware is certainly the most frequent to flash, followed by disk drives. SSDs in particular.
Vendors don't always get the firmware right first time.

Keeping Windows around for the odd Firmware flash update seems like overkill but if you get into the state where there is no other solution ...
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huva
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Joan and Neddy.

I may just keep some space on the ssd on reserve for the unexpected. My current machine is a X1 Carbon and I am planning to probably buy another X1 for the Gentoo installation as I need a Win10 machine around. Even so, Gentoo should be my home as I'm inside the vm half the time. Probably would be more if the vbox software was flawless.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't there Hiren CD which lets you run Windows from CD if you need it, without installing? Besides, the main reason for firmware update is CPU microcode update, but it can be loaded also by OS at the boot time. Granted, there may be other bugfixes, but if you are not affected why bother.
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