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Linuxboy79
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:02 pm    Post subject: Some noob questions Reply with quote

I have tried Installing gentoo 4 times now but it always stops up when I get to grub, so in all this I have questions


1.for a PC user who does normal things like surf the net play some games to watch movies listen to music, is really gentoo some advantage over other distros ?

2.gentoo looks incredibly complicated for a newbe in gentoo world, is it really that complicated?

3.is there any easy way to install bootloader for UEFI ? (preferably not refind )


Thanks :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentoo is the first Linux distribution I tried.
From my experience, after learning how to install it, it is pretty much smooth sailing from there. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

When I started using Linux in 1996, I was using RedHat 4.0. I swapped to Gentoo Linux at some point in late 2002. It was an eye-opening experience, and endlessly frustrating at first! So, to answer your questions:

1. It depends on what type of "advantage" you're looking for. In terms of speed or something like that, probably not on modern hardware. In terms of learning about Linux, and complete customisation of your system, yes, definitely.

2. It really isn't that complicated, and if you enjoy learning how things work "under the hood," you'd likely enjoy the experience (even though there will be frustrations).

3. Not that I know of. If you're running into particular problems, please let us know, and we'll try to help. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rEFInd is not a bootloader. rEFInd is a boot manager; it searches for bootloaders and presents bootloaders in a graphical menu so a bootloader can be selected. If you are single booting, http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/EFI_stub_kernel will provide the lightest available bootloader. Did you boot and use UEFI install medium for the install?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linuxboy79,

Welcome to Gentoo.

There have never been any reports of Gentoo installs failing, unless you count users attempting to insall a version that does nat match ther hardware.
It follows that you cannot fix a Gentoo install by repeating the instalation.
There are many varying degrees of success - we can help you get to the end of the process where your measure of success meets your expectations.
By reinstalling, you learn nothing and only have the oportunity to make a different set of mistakes.

1. Not really. The advantage/disadvantage of Gentoo is that it puts you in control.

2. You will learn a dood deal about Linux by installing Gentoo. Its not really that complicated as Portage does al the hard work for you

3. You don't actually need a boot loader for UEFI. The kernel can be built as a UEFI compliant program and loaded by the UEFI firmware.
Grub works too.

Tell us where you have got to. What you did, What actually happened and what you expected to happen. If we need more information to help you fix your
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Some noob questions Reply with quote

Hi,

Linuxboy79 wrote:
I have tried Installing gentoo 4 times now but it always stops up when I get to grub, so in all this I have questions


If you say " Ït stops when I get to grub" do you mean:

- Grub starts, there is a list containing at least one kernel (the one you compiled following the handbook), and once it is selected it stops ? If so, what is the message?

- Or: Grub starts, but there are there no options/kernels available to boot from grub? (in which case you probably need to re-run some of the configure steps shown in the handbook at http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Bootloader).


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