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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:17 pm    Post subject: Minimal install CD modification Reply with quote

Hi,

there are few things which Im missing in gentoo install cd. Especially git client and version of wget which can communicate via tls 1.2, knows PFS and https-only option (:[).

Is there a way how I can take actual install cd and add/update few packages? In best case fully automated.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From reading these forums I question why we keep the minimal install CD so minimal. From what I recall there is plenty of room to add more to it and just a few additions would make it more usable for a greater amount of people. Especially in regards to hardware support. Maybe it is time to change this? It seems as it is now everyone on the forum suggests to simply use the system rescue cd instead.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The logic is simple. If you are a computer guy you already have SystemRescueCD (or similar) in your pocket. So you obviously will not go thru extra steps to download minimal ISO, burn it ... only to discover it does not support your networking hardware, for instance. If I remember correctly I installed my first Gentoo back in 2004 using Knoppix - because I already had it on a CD.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,

please consider as well that there is no need to download 3gb of data for gentoo installation. as said, minimal iso is almost perfect, but git and newer version of wget will be appreciated. i know its hard to recognize which packages are and which are not "important"...

if there is a way how I can easily modify latest minimal iso, it might be fine for some period of time (at least for me)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly my point, SytemRescueCd is 395 MiB (and it is very handy in all situations - so one should have it anyway), not sure what is 3gb. Three grams and bars?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SystemRecuceCd isn't 3GiB but only about 480MiB.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.sysresccd.org/Download

Beta version may be a little bigger. It probably has no GIT, but it is easy to add http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_How_to_personalize_SystemRescueCd
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, ok, but Im working on distribution which is based on gentoo and logical way for me is to use livecd from the same project

mkey I will look around for (maybe even smaller) livecd

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SystemRescueCd is Gentoo-based.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John R. Graham wrote:
SystemRescueCd is Gentoo-based.


well hidden information :]

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hash sums as the only way for systemrescuecd iso verification (no gpg, no certificates)...

ok, so I would rather make feature request on gentoo bugzilla
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GRML has SHA verification. It is not Gentoo based but it is a great tool to fix and administer any box.

BTW, I used to visit Prague every spring when I was living in Europe. Jaroslav Hašek is one of my favorite writers. There is no beer in the US that gets close to the beers sold in your beercellars. The old town is amazing ... but I will stop here ... these are Gentoo forums after all.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaglover wrote:
BTW, I used to visit Prague every spring when I was living in Europe. Jaroslav Hašek is one of my favorite writers. There is no beer in the US that gets close to the beers sold in your beercellars. The old town is amazing ... but I will stop here ... these are Gentoo forums after all.


Amen :]
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