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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:45 pm    Post subject: Is there anyway how to install gdm-3.12.2-r2 whithut systemd Reply with quote

How to install gdm-3.12.2-r2 without systemd support? To run mate-base/mate desktop environment.

Or i need gdm version lower than 3.12.2???
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it's not possible. Take an other login manager, like slim.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess... that is not what i ask. Why gdm version 2.x.x excluded from portage tree? Can you guess?

That revision cleanup brakes backward compability with many programms, like MATE or GNOME2. Then you installing MATE those fork of gnome2 desktop environment you MUST install systemd!!!! That is hard not to brake whole system with openrc and systemd init managers those can make awfull conflicts!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the "why", you can have a start of answer here: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/3233
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TigerJr wrote:
Guess... that is not what i ask. Why gdm version 2.x.x excluded from portage tree? Can you guess?

That revision cleanup brakes backward compability with many programms, like MATE or GNOME2. Then you installing MATE those fork of gnome2 desktop environment you MUST install systemd!!!! That is hard not to brake whole system with openrc and systemd init managers those can make awfull conflicts!!!!!!!
For now, you could pull the old gdm from the attic and put it in your local overlay.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xaviermiller wrote:
For the "why", you can have a start of answer here: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/3233


I just want that old ebuilds are not excluded from a portage tree... gnome2, gdm2, gentoo-sources like 3.15.10 and 3.16.7, apache version 1.3, 2.0 and 2.2 . The reason is get more choises.

So if i sync portage tree i get lost old ebuilds and can't reinstall already installed packages with other USE flags, it creates discomfort for managing system or i need refuse syncing of a portage tree and get an old system.

After portage EAPI changed and i get unupdateable system cause all installed package need old EAPI and i need old portage for that.

So i need fully reinstall old systems couse i can't install newer packages. That problems what i get while working with portage tree on systems those have uptime more than 365 days and install date more than 3 years ago.

I think this is gentoo-policy problem and i didn't know how to solve that.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Maintaining older ebuild asks a lot of manpower : need to maintain the versions against dependencies, security patches, and portage EAPI evolution. Gentoo has not enough that manpower to do it, or the priorities are different. But you can create a local overlay to keep them.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got gdm-2.20-11 installed, and copied the stuff into my local overlay.

However on another thread (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7696198.html#7696198) they're talking about MDM - the display manager for Mate, which is derived from gdm-2.20-11. It's not in portage yet, you have to get the ebuild from bugzilla.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MDM is unworkable buggy fork.
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