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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:27 pm    Post subject: SSD Drive Problems (is it faulty?) [SOLVED-- sort-of] Reply with quote

Hello, I have had some problems recently that seemed to be related to overheating. At least that's what UEFI was reporting after rebooting.

However, based on the behavior of the computer it seemed that there was something wrong with the SSD that houses the OS and not with the CPU itself. This seems strange to me because an SSD is not really a major heat generating device since there are no moving parts. But what I found was that whenever I had a system lock-up I would reboot and the SSD would not even be detected by UEFI unless I waited some time for (I assume) the drive to cool down. This led me to swap out the SSD with another as discussed in my previously referenced post.

Now, so far, it seems that I'm not longer having this problem of the system locking-up and in fact my CPU fan seems to be running normally and not at full-tilt anymore... So it seems that the OCZ Vertex 3 SSD I was using is possibly faulty. Now this drive is only 2-years old and there is a three year warranty so I'd like to return it. But first I'd like to run some integrity tests on the drive to investigate whether it is indeed faulty.

Does anyone know of any tests for a faulty solid state drive? I tried running 'smartctl' as well as 'badblocks' but badblocks reported no bad blocks and smartctl's results on the life of the drive are inconclusive. Can someone here can either interpret the smartctl output better than I could or suggest a better tool out there?

Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. Thank you.

dq


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, there's some interesting information in this post:

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/691402-Ocz-vertex-3-overheating?s=f345bb37bf356f22c91108b2eff47c21&p=7014783&viewfull=1#post7014783

that may shed some light on the problem I've been having... Maybe it's related?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually i have no clue. I use Samsung SSD drives and still have no issues on my systems here. Even if they run nearly 3 Years. Since there was some speculation on the lifetime of these devices i done my best to avoid a high rate of write acceses to these drives.

Why i post here? I thought this Blog post: When solid state drives are not that solid could be interesting to you.

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This blacklist configures a specific behavior for certain SSD drives and identifies the drives based on the regexp of the model name. Our working SSDs were explicitly allowed full operation of the TRIM but some of the SSDs of our affected manufacturer were limited.


Remark on: The blacklist is a TRIM Blacklist in the libata-core.c. It's not likely that's related to your trouble, but hey this is an interesting story. Maybe you find some interesting comments at this blog.

don quixada wrote:
But what I found was that whenever I had a system lock-up I would reboot and the SSD would not even be detected by UEFI unless I waited some time for (I assume) the drive to cool down.


First thing: Did you got any messages (warnings, errors..) in your log files of this drive?

What i would do? Change this drive, make a backup. Maybe run tests, like Copy the Files and check the "File changed at" state and compare if something got lost or change even if the files where not updated an not changed. Just get rid of fool hardware as soon as possible.

Last thing: A check if this is related to your other Hardware then the drive. I had a broken Sata-Cable, a broken sata Plug. And a bad driver of my sata controller in the past that cause some trouble. If you can, i would change the physically plug and the cable of your sdd drive. Check if there is an issue about that. I wrote this since you mention that your system sometimes did not find the drive after restart.

Yes this is a little expansive and you have to keep in mind if this worth the effort.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi just a follow-up on this thread, I swapped-out the drive and have had no problems with "overheating", I suspect it was the false reading due to the lack of a sensor on that OCZ drive after all. Actually, I updated the firmware of the OCZ drive as well but since it's not used anymore I can't say whether it fixed that particular problem. The upside too is that my CPU cooling fans are not running at full-tilt anymore which was loud and annoying.

... anyway, just for posterity, in case others have this problem too.

Cheers!

dq
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