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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:34 am    Post subject: SSD / usb 3.0 Enclosure Reply with quote

I want to focus now on weekly backups.

Therefore I bought an SSD from ADATA, which seems to be 1 milimeters wider as the spec of 70mm for 2.5" drives.

The usb 3.0 enclosure showed during a close pcb inspection this chip JMS567

http://www.jmicron.com/PDF/brief/jms567.pdf

I asked ADATA via RMA because their drive is out of spec in my point of view.

I assuem that I will scratch the warranty sticker on the outside by sliding the drive in the enclosure. A samsung hdd has plenty of room in the case, so I assume it is ADATAs fault.

What also annoys me is the smartmontools output.


lsusb
http://pastebin.com/xUfqavWm

Quote:
smartctl -a -d sat /dev/sdc
smartctl 6.4 2015-06-04 r4109 [x86_64-linux-4.2.5-gentoo_2015-11-07] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-15, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: ADATA SP550
Serial Number: ...
Firmware Version: O0730A
User Capacity: 120.034.123.776 bytes [120 GB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: Solid State Device
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: ACS-2 (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Mon Nov 9 12:20:42 2015 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Status command failed
Please get assistance from http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
Register values returned from SMART Status command are:
ERR=0x00, SC=0x00, LL=0x00, LM=0x00, LH=0x00, DEV=0x00, STS=0x00
SMART Status not supported: Invalid ATA output register values
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Warning: This result is based on an Attribute check.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0xe8) Offline data collection activity
is in a Vendor Specific state.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (25600) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x71) SMART execute Offline immediate.
No Auto Offline data collection support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
No Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0002) Does not save SMART data before
entering power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x0035) SCT Status supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 6
160 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
161 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 130
163 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 22
148 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 5682
149 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 38
150 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 1
151 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 33
164 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 3682
165 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 3
166 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 1
167 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 1
168 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 1000
169 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 000 000 000 Old_age Offline - 0
175 Program_Fail_Count_Chip 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
176 Erase_Fail_Count_Chip 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
177 Wear_Leveling_Count 0x0000 100 100 050 Old_age Offline - 0
178 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Chip 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 1
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 38
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0000 100 100 016 Old_age Offline - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0000 100 100 050 Old_age Offline - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

Warning! SMART Self-Test Log Structure error: invalid SMART checksum.
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
6 0 65535 Read_scanning is in a Vendor Specific state
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.




Question:

a) Smart okay or not? My opinion is that the smart values are faulty, or the bridge chip report those faulty
b) return this garbage? the case is far too expensive and seems to be not native supported. It has also mechanical issues in my eyes, or those seems to be expected
c) SSD, it is just one milimeters, but that could void the warranty. Return it?
d) Smartmontool report everthing as old age. are those errors or just garbage?

I have to leave my computer soon for today, I just wanted to ask for other opinions.

I am 60 percent in favour of returning that trash to amazon. The drive is far too big, the usb enclosure seems to be cheaply made and sold far too expensive.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/FAQ#MyATAdriveisnotinthesmartctlsmartddatabase
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had to add disks to the smart db before.

Contact the Manufacturer (support) and ask what they use the different attribute numbers for.
Samsung sent me their list for their drive without a problem.
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