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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:33 pm    Post subject: Help installing Gnome 3? X server installation help Reply with quote

So I'm new to gentoo, and pretty new to linux in general.
I found this old laptop, a Lenovo Thinkpad T400 and decided to put gentoo on it as a learning experience. So I'm not advanced at all, and probably shouldn't be installing gentoo, but I am anyway :).
So I basically followed the handbook. I then realised that in order to install gnome, I would need to follow the https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd/Installing_Gnome3_from_scratch page as well and reinstalled gentoo with this in mind.
I have now got to the final stages, having rebooted and I am having trouble in the X server installation section.
First of all, I don't know what my card brand for the VIDEO_CARDS value in /etc/portage/make.conf. I know that the make is either AMD Mobility Radeon HD 3400 or Integrated Intel® GMA 4500 MHD, which I will find out, but for either of them, what do I put?

I also don't know what it means by 'Follow the page X server to set the kernel paramaters for evdev and the kernel parameters for your graphic card if not already done. Recompile the kernel' what is the 'page X'?

Also, when I input the command 'root #startx', after inputting the 'root #emerge --ask x11-terms/xterm x11-wm/twm' command, it just comes up with a bash command unknown error. Admittedly, I haven't done either of the last two points mentioned above, which is probably the problem, but I thought I would mention this as well.

Thanks for your help, sorry if the above doesn't make any sense, I'm tired and my brain is fried from learning all about gentoo, linux and computers in general in like 10 hours straight haha. I could have made some slight errors during the installation, but I don't recall feeling worried about anything in particular. I stuck to the handbook (and the Gnome3 installation guide) 100%, I'm pretty sure.
Cheers :)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technologicallychallenged,

Look at the lspci output to see your graphics cards.

You won't have the Xorg server unless you have explictly installed it.
X is network transparent. That means its bits can be scattered all over the network and it won't mind.
The server is only needed on the node that will drive the display.
Indeed, its not an error to install all of Gnome and no X server. Most users won't want that though.

When you have determined your graphics card, you can look at the wiki page for your specific card/driver.
You will need to rebuild your kernel as different card have different and conflicting kernel requirements.

You will hate a full desktop environment on an old laptap - it will be so slow.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay.
When I redo the kernel, do I do the same as when I first configured it in the installation, or is there a different way to do it?
Also, this computer isn't too bad and isn't that old either. It ran windows vista before, and I recently test drove linux mint and it was fine in both cases.
Thanks for your response btw :)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Technologicallychallenged,

I do not mean any offensive, but windows vista? Jesus, did you have to ;-)

You said you are new to linux and then choose Gentoo. Wow, this makes us proud. But a word of advise. Gentoo can be a bitch and needs be treated well. If you do not want to take the challange your are very fine with linux mint. You can easily switch to Gentoo from any distribution without any problem when you are more familiar with it.

Do provide the information as NeddySeagoon wrote in his reply.

The best way to get the graphics working is to start with the intel card. If this works then we can go to the AMD card.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technologicallychallenged,

Focus on one problem at a time. That way, you won't get confused with what changes fixed/broke what and your helpers will understand what effects the changes they recommend are having on your system.

Right now, we don't have the information needed to point you in the right direction.
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