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ade05fr
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:39 am    Post subject: Delete OpenRC and keep systemd Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

i have migrated from openrc to systemd since 2 years now and now i want to suppress all the files/directories that are obsolete from openrc.
Can you tell me if there is a script, a tutorial to purge all the unnecesseray files.

I want to do because i'm always confused when i had to make change on my gentoo system.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not yet fully possible, but almost, if you run an unstable system. See bug 504116 for the progress.
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davidm
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chithanh wrote:
It is not yet fully possible, but almost, if you run an unstable system. See bug 504116 for the progress.


I just wanted to say that I appreciate the work some developers are doing on systemd in Gentoo. I've been using systemd for almost a year now under Gentoo and have found it to work very well. I don't feel strongly either way about it (OpenRC also worked fine for me) but I appreciate that Gentoo users have a choice and that the developers didn't just take the easy way with it by declaring only one or the other to be supported. This philosophy is a strong reason for people to switch to Gentoo and to stay with it in my opinion.
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khayyam
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

davidm wrote:
I just wanted to say that I appreciate the work some developers are doing on systemd in Gentoo. I've been using systemd for almost a year now under Gentoo and have found it to work very well. I don't feel strongly either way about it (OpenRC also worked fine for me) but I appreciate that Gentoo users have a choice and that the developers didn't just take the easy way with it by declaring only one or the other to be supported.

davidm ... this is something of a myth, you haven't noticed what this "choice" involves as you are unaffected, and so oblivious to the effects, ie, >=sys-apps/usbutils-008 ... because "upstream" (namely systemd). So, its only something to celebrate if you happen to be the beneficiary of such "choice", which is not the same as mutual co-existence.

davidm wrote:
This philosophy is a strong reason for people to switch to Gentoo and to stay with it in my opinion.

... the only reason systemd hasn't completely subsumed gentoo is the fact that gentoo has historically attracted more competent, and experienced, users, and so such a userbase is harder to win over, etc, etc. So, for the most part, its users that have created the environment for such a "philosophy", or better put, the resistance against systemd's stated goal of "push[ing] the distros to standardize on the same components for the base system". However, such resistance hardly matters given the resources, momentum, etc, that are leveraged by redhat/systemd, so I don't see it capable of maintaining anything of the happy co-existence you seem to think is the outcome of some "philosophy". This will mean, and has meant since systemd entered the tree, that there is an inherent conflict between these "choices", one that can't be papered over by pretending our respective choices are equivalent ... they are not.

best ... khay
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