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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Systemrescuecd gives you a lot of alternate boot choices. On an x86 machine you have to choose one of the 32 bit choices.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, and once in systemrescuecd you can run startx to get GUI, from there keep browser and terminal open to install Gentoo easy way ... erm ... say easiest way possible.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to gain root privileges you type 'sudo su -' from any console.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, likewhoa, that did it.

Sorry guys, but I think I'm getting even more confused with all of the suggestions. Do I need to bother with a rescue disc now that I'm at a desktop with the LiveDVD?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megadaft wrote:
Do I need to bother with a rescue disc now that I'm at a desktop with the LiveDVD?

Megadaft ... nope.

best ... khay
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I still haven't really 'installed' anything, correct? I'm still just running an OS off of a disc?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megadaft wrote:
But I still haven't really 'installed' anything, correct? I'm still just running an OS off of a disc?

Megadaft ... correct, but as I said previously, (practically) any boot disk can be used to install, you don't need sysresccd, the LiveDVD should function perfectly fine.

best ... khay
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to connect to the network via wifi, as I was only able to get this running on a laptop, but naturally, unable to do so.

I'm trying to follow this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Networking/Wireless

I entered this:
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root #emerge --ask net-wireless/wpa_supplicant


It did something, but ultimately seems to have failed because it couldn't download a file...well if I need to download a file in order to get the internet working...

Anyways, moving on to what will surely be the next issue...

This file doesn't seem to exist, as
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nano -w /etc/conf.d/net
just brings up a blank file.

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Next, configure /etc/conf.d/net so that the wpa_supplicant module is preferred over wireless-tools (if both are installed, wireless-tools is the default).
FILE /etc/conf.d/netForce the use of wpa_supplicant

# Prefer wpa_supplicant over wireless-tools
modules="wpa_supplicant"
 
# It's important to tell wpa_supplicant which driver it should
# be using as it's not very good at guessing yet
wpa_supplicant_eth0="-Dnl80211"
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to download stage3 and unpack it. Back to sysrescue suggestion - it has superior wireless support.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to the rescue disc idea...well I think reality just knocked on the door.

I think it's time I raise the old white flag.

Thanks for the help all, sorry to have wasted your time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem. Come back when you feel adventurous again. ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megadaft wrote:
I'm trying to connect to the network via wifi, as I was only able to get this running on a laptop, but naturally, unable to do so. I'm trying to follow this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Networking/Wireless

Megadaft ... you can't pick, willy-nilly, sections from the handbook and expect it will work, for that specific section of the handbook you will have had to have followed previous sections. Anyhow, you are running a liveDVD all the components required to connect via wireless should be available, I expect nm-applet is in the menubar.

best ... khay
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to see you go. The choices are daunting. Systemrescuecd isn't just for rescue and install. It has a working gentoo also. Of course, it doesn't have the full array of options that a DVD has.

EDIT: Is your company anywhere in reasonable driving distance of the Western Chicago suburbs? I'd be glad to spend a day, walking you through. Just buy me coffee. I'm retired but I can provide your boss with a resume and references.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khayyam wrote:
Megadaft wrote:
I'm trying to connect to the network via wifi, as I was only able to get this running on a laptop, but naturally, unable to do so. I'm trying to follow this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Networking/Wireless

Megadaft ... you can't pick, willy-nilly, sections from the handbook and expect it will work, for that specific section of the handbook you will have had to have followed previous sections. Anyhow, you are running a liveDVD all the components required to connect via wireless should be available, I expect nm-applet is in the menubar.

best ... khay


There was an applet in the menubar, and I thought I might catch one single easy win with this OS, but when I chose my ssid and entered my psk, it looked like it was trying to obtain an IP from my DHCP server, but would fail.

At that point I started reading through the networking section. net-setup didn't work for me, I don't understand most of what is being described as the doc is obviously written with experienced Linux users in mind, and I was left with this as my last hope
Code:
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If the wireless network is set up with WPA or WPA2, then wpa_supplicant needs to be used. For more information on configuring wireless networking in Gentoo Linux, please read the Wireless networking chapter in the Gentoo Handbook.


I then followed that, which brought me to the WPA supplicant stuff.

I wasn't attempting to go 'willy-nilly', but I understand your frustrations...trust me, I'm close to smashing a monitor over here.

No worries, it is what it is...


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony0945 wrote:
Sorry to see you go. The choices are daunting. Systemrescuecd isn't just for rescue and install. It has a working gentoo also. Of course, it doesn't have the full array of options that a DVD has.

EDIT: Is your company anywhere in reasonable driving distance of the Western Chicago suburbs? I'd be glad to spend a day, walking you through. Just buy me coffee. I'm retired but I can provide your boss with a resume and references.


Wow, Tony...That's amazingly generous of you, and we are close, surprisingly close.

I don't know how comfortable I'd feel abusing your offer, I feel guilty enough bothering all of you here. I'm not even educated enough to ask for decent help, rather I'm needing to be spoon fed every single step/command/etc. I hate being that guy...

I'll keep your offer as my 'break glass' option, but I'd rather not cause you that type of headache just because I'm out over my skis and hopeless :)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All you need is to set root password and forward port 22 in your router ... and any friend anywhere can install Gentoo for you over SSH.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy him a really nice coffee then.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The coffee is the least of my concerns, we have Starbucks on tap here :)

I'll restart and quit this attempt at least 4 more times before I break something in the office and THEN maybe allow myself to be that big of a pain in someone's arse....
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on, it is no pain at all. Installing Gentoo is fun! Unfortunately, Gentoo being a rolling distro one cannot have that fun often enough, :( I will gladly do it over SSH, you can mail me the coffee!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megadaft wrote:
There was an applet in the menubar, and I thought I might catch one single easy win with this OS, but when I chose my ssid and entered my psk, it looked like it was trying to obtain an IP from my DHCP server, but would fail.

Megadaft ... nm-applet will use wpa_supplicant ... think of the former as the gui, and the latter as the backend. If 'wpa_cli status' shows "CONNECTED" then your are authenticated, 'ip a' should show if your interface has an ip or not.

BTW, no one is expecting you to know how to troubleshoot issues like this, all we expect is that you provide enough details of what you've done so we can figure out how to help you, that said, given Tony's offer I'd take him up on it ...

best ... khay
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megadaft,

Tony will enjoy himself. We all would. Unfortunately, I'm in Europe, so will need to join the party via ssh.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll say this much, your OS of choice is also probably Satan's favorite :twisted: but I've never found a more generous group of enthusiasts!

I'm a stubborn sob, so I've been continuing the struggle solo...stuck on successfully downloading stage3...keep getting errors trying to decompress. I'm probably not picking the correct file or mirror.

Edit: Problem solved, found one that would unpack successfully.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Megadaft glad wireless is working for you. What did you do to connect?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wireless is not working, I had to wire it, unfortunately.

I can see and 'connect' to my ssid, but it gets to a point where it looks like it's trying to grab an IP from my DHCP server and it errors out, and the connection is terminated.

I eventually just gave up...I have a feeling the same thing is going to happen when I attempt to get bluetooth working, which is the sole purpose of this entire soul crushing journey.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any recommendations for profile type? The info in the handbook is pretty light on this topic.
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