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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:12 pm    Post subject: status on systemd Reply with quote

about 6 months ago i tried to switch from openRC to systemd, but i encountered some issues which i do not want to discuss right now.

i would like to give systemd another shot, but would like to know if systemd is more easy on the go at this stage.

*edit* is it possible to run systemd with the genkernel now?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.
I'm giving systemd a change by running it on my desktop that has multi-seat configuration. And yes I do use genkernel. genkernel-next to be exact. Systemd has its problems, mainly with the logging system. I also encounter random problems when I use systemd to map power button events. And with the logging system in use I'm having hard time to pinpoint the problem...
Otherwise it works somewhat ok. I haven't tested the emergency shell yet on Gentoo. That was the weak point last time I tried. The prompt was unable to receive the password I typed.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have options to support Openrc and Systemd in the Gentoo sources. I think they are activated by default. You can use menuconfig with Genkernel to verify it. I use Systemd now with Gentoo. My profile is default/linux/amd64/13.0/systemd and the systemd USE flag is activated globally.

Because Systemd is widely use in Linux world, it is suitable for a lot of applications. On Gentoo some applications use the openrc USE flag. Others install boot scripts for Openrc and not for Systemd. This is the case of the splashutils and x11vnc packages. In the first case, I just set the splash theme for virtual terminals using the splash_manager command in a script execute in /etc/rc.local. For x11vnc I use the ArchLinux x11vnc.service unit with Gentoo Systemd.

Because it is easy to create boot scripts for Systemd there is no problem for me with the few applications who do not have one at the installation. One reason I use Systemd with Gentoo is because I know it well using it with Debian and ArchLinux.

I take care to configure well the files /etc/systemd/journald.conf and /etc/systemd/logind.conf for the journal space, the power management and so on . There is a manpage about each of them. I have remove the consolekit package who manage permissions with Openrc to not possibly conflict with logind of Systemd. The openrc package stay as it is a dependance of the splashutils package I need. I can come back to Openrc anytime I want.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SystemD is evil. If eudev ever dies or devs get pressured by NSA, I'm going back to Sysvinit-2.88dsf.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NTU,

We have a separate thread for The Politics of systemd. Please do not derail technical discussion.
That will only get the thread locked. You may find your post moved there together with this response to try to keep this topic technical.
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