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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Find the card by the chipset Reply with quote

Hi, ALL,
Can someone please tell me if its possible to find which card{s} contain following chipsets?

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Atheros AR928X, AR521X, AR5523USB
Atmel AT76C50x USB
Intel PRO/Wireless 2100B, WiFi Link 5100/5300, PRO/Wireless 2200BG/2915ABG, WiFi Link 4965AGN, WiFi Link 1000/2000/6000/7000 series, PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Marvell 88W8363
Cisco Aironet
Lucent and PRISM-II
Ralink RT2500, RT2501/RT2601/73USB, RT2561/RT25615/RT2661, RT2700/2800, RT2500USB
Realtek 8180L, RTL8187L/B USB
ZyDAS ZD1211/B USB


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure it's possible, but not from any source code that I know of in kernel or drivers. Manufacturers proliferate the part numbers by integrating those chips into cards, that is, there are WAY more card ID's than chip ID's. For the most part, a person can look up a card and find what chip it uses, but what you are asking is "look at ALL cards, and sort by chip."

An alternative would be to somehow learn all the card maker buyers of those specific chips, and limit the search (from ALL cards) to only ALL cards made by buyers of those particular chips. That sort of information is commercial.

A list of SOME cards is likely possible to derive from kernel and drive source code, but a quick peek and grep (-i card) through all the files in the /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless branch seems to show the code is focused on the chip ID, and is indifferent to card ID.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cboldt,
So what is the best way of identifying the actual card{s}?
I need a USB card to put inj as a second card...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wikidevi.com is as close as I have seen to having a comprehensive database of NIC information. Unfortunately their query tools are difficult.
Are you looking to get the same chip or to avoid the same chip on the second card?
Note that some manufacturers will use a variety of different chips on cards with the same name. Frequently the windows driver they provide for the card will sort the problem while some variations will not have any linux driver and/or firmware.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the looks of it, your shopping list is substantially large. You appear to be indifferent between some 8 or 10 wireless chips. Depending on how much money is involved, sometimes I research a card I am considering before I buy it, or I buy it, plug it in, and either figure which driver makes it work, or shrug it off as a loss. Out of the 15 or so wireless devices I've come to own, all of them worked with linux. Some took more effort, but they all worked.

There are probably thousands of USB/WiFi options out there. Here is one person's opinion (not mine) http://www.wirelesshack.org/top-linux-compatible-usb-wireless-adapters.html
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DONAHUE brings up a good point. Sometimes one card model/brand name goes through revision that includes changing the WiFi chip. I ran into this recently with a TP-Link https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16833704053, which, FWIW, worked great under Linux. Box built for others, and they run Windows, but I tested the build with linux.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DONAHUE,
I am trying to make a Solaris work on this laptop.
Unfortunately the inner card there (Broadcom) is not supported and the list I get only display chip info.

And so this is the list I need.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ONEEYEMAN,

There is no reliable list. The only reliable way in to plug the USB stick in and note the device and vendor IDs.
Then you know about the device you have in your hand.

I have three nominally identical devices from the same vendor (bought at different times and places) with different chipsets inside and require different drivers.
Two of them have the same vendor and device ID too, which is a bit naughty.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess one tip is for the Intel ones - since the chips don't go into, they are readily identifiable. However they also tend to have hardware locks that prevent them being used in anything other than the OEM they were built for (mPCI/mPCIe)...

I think most of the cheap wifi usb sticks use ralink these days. You might be safe just finding one and doing some research on the model/revision to see if it really has ralink, and get it. It might just work too. The others chipsets I don't find too often anymore, or they may be mPCI/mPCIe.

I suspect you want a USB one?
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