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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:58 am    Post subject: Consider to install Gnome/Systemd? Reply with quote

I plan to have a new installation and would like to know if it is a good idea to choose Gnome/Systemd.
I like the looks of Gnome3 but had some issues regarding this choice in the past.
I found this wiki: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd/Installing_Gnome3_from_scratch
Please advise if in this way the system should work ok?
Also - I see in that wiki recommendation to choose sys-kernel/genkernel-next -
I use always kernel's manual configuration -so please advise if I can continue using manual configuration, or it is better with sys-kernel/genkernel-next?
I am just not familiar with genkernel - maybe it is a good idea to use it in general - what are main Pros & Cons.?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have Gnome3-systemd running on 3 machines, 2 actively; it seems to work just fine except an issue with wine. I had installed it as an upgrade from gnome2 for the most part, so I did not take advantage of that wiki. Using a stage3 with systemd can speed things along a bit, will at least save you a reboot.

Using genkernel isn't absolutely necessary but having that initramfs has a lot of stuff that configuration was relegated to userland like rootfs by label and lvm/md support. It can be safely ignored.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can safely stick to your manual kernel, just check that ssome dependencies of gnome need some specific kernel parameters. These will be mentioned by portage during emerge. so, just apply them and you'll be fine.

As to systemd: three years ago it was tricky to switch from my formerinit-system to systemd, don't know how it is today.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The big con about using genkernel is that you need to build an initramfs every time you build a new kernel. Since as a rule you will be running some kind of exotic disk partitioning system (with mirroring support) that the kernel does not support natively, this means any mistake will require you to revert to the old system to retry. It's tricky, it's messy, and you really should stay away from it unless you have a full understanding what needs to go inside such an init system and what you *want* inside it (think stuff like bootsplash).
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to hear from you that these days Gnome3/Systemd works ok! I will use stage 3 according the mentioned link.
After your responds I more tilt to try genkernel - I will follow the mentioned link during installation and it suppose to be easier with genkernel however,
please advise how is the maintenance comparing manual kernel configuration - Need to do something special during system’s updating?
In case of a new hardware – need to add drivers with menuconfig or using another way?

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