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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:21 pm    Post subject: [solved]LXQT: consolekit or elogind? (and kernel config) Reply with quote

I've decided to try LXQT. I did an emerge --pretend. It says I need consolekit, elogind, or systemd. I'm not going to switch over to systemd, so that leaves the other two.

consolekit says it is for multiuser systems. This computer is single user. That leaves elogind. Is that the most reasonable choice for me?

The elogind page says that my kernel needs to be configured like so:

Code:
General setup  --->
    [*] Control Group support  --->
File systems  --->
    [*] Inotify support for userspace

My kernel is currently configured like this:

Code:
General setup  --->
    -*- Control Group support  --->
File systems  --->
    [*] Inotify support for userspace

Is that sufficient? Doesn't the [*] for Control Group support imply that everything underneath should be turned on? This is my current configuration for Control Group support:

Code:
[ ] Memory controller
[ ] IO controller
[*] CPU controller --->
[ ] PIDs controller
[ ] RDMA controller
[*] Freezer controller
[ ] HugeTLB controller
[ ] Device controller
[*] Simple CPU accounting controller
[ ] Perf controller
[ ] Debug controller


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By that token, elogind is for multiuser systems too, likewise systemd...

I suspect the use of elogind is preferred over the long term because it's the closest to systemd. Otherwise consolekit will work fine.

Your kernel config should be fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'-*-' means it has been turned on as a dependency for some other option. In your case it is as good as [*].
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: LXQT: consolekit or elogind? (and kernel config) Reply with quote

mojosam wrote:
Is that sufficient? Doesn't the [*] for Control Group support imply that everything underneath should be turned on? This is my current configuration for Control Group support:


I don't have anything selected in Control Group and elogind works fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eccerr0r wrote:
I suspect the use of elogind is preferred over the long term because it's the closest to systemd. Otherwise consolekit will work fine.

That is tru but some binary package need elogind to works (i.e. net-misc/teamviewer).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That seems to have installed correctly. I then installed LXQT, which is failing. That looks to be an unrelated problem. I'll post that under Desktop Environments.

Thank you for the help!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:38 am    Post subject: ><)))°€ Reply with quote

While yeah, for a single user, lots of the features these things have seem rather useless and unneeded, but as bits of them and their dependencies are used for things such as powering off the system as a normal user and auto-mounting of things, upstream has not supported building without them. I've had a patch in the 'live' (9999) version for a time, to not require these things, which I had been meaning to improve and send upstream. Someone else got to it first though, even if for different reasons.

That is to say, one could carefully expect these things to be optional in the next release. :]
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do realize that "root" and your regular unprivileged user are two distinct users and "multiuser" is not any special word.

Multi-seat however is a different story. For PCs, they aren't typically multi seat (they're personal!).

Based on the way the industry is going we may be going back to dumb terminals (i.e. your phone connected to larger screen and keyboard) and centralized computers again just like the old mainframe days -- and multi-seat is what's needed for that... :(
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