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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:26 am    Post subject: 2.6 On PPC (PowerBook G3) Reply with quote

I decided to reinstall gentoo on my PowerBook G3 400 mhz laptop. (Here is what my laptop is like):::

400 Mhz G3
192 Megabytes of RAM
I think it's called "Pismo"
It has a DVD drive
Rage128 8 meg video card (aty128fb: Rage Mobility M3 (AGP))

So the one million dollar question is: How well will 2.6 run on this machine? How many of you have 2.6 running on this type of laptop? Any issues/problems? workarounds? Things I need to know?

Or is everything working well?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok progress so far:

I have booted the 2.6 kernel.
The network module (sungem) works.
I'm not sure about the sound module (dmasound_pmac?) It loaded but I didn't have a chance to test it yet.

I'm now emerging xfree-drm so I'll check out how the frame rates are, I didn't select anything video specific in the kernel or unselect anything.

suggestions are welcomed.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my pentium 2 350 mhz, kernel 2.6 run better than 2.4.22, so I think there are no problem for a ppc 400mhz :D
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah everything seems to be running great. xfree-drm is not needed with the 2.6 kernel apparently, so I just enabled DRM in Character Devices and my Video card in Grahpics support (ati rage 128...) and I get 436 FPS. next... on to install pbbuttonsd and gtkpbbuttons and etc...

I'm just making this thread so that people know what works and what doesn't on the powerbook g3 pismo.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, drm is not need, don't emerge it!! Use the drm inside in the kernel, but without specifical driver, only drm.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In any case so far everything works on teh Powerbook G3 (Firewire) which is what I have and I think it's called a Pismo, anyway. Everything works just fine with the 2.6 kernel. ( I haven't tried the modem and I don't have a wireless network card) but except those 2 things everything seems to work.

Edit: oh and I haven't tried the firewire ports /edit.

So if anyone is ever installing Linux 2.6 on their Powerbook and they have the inspiration to search the forums then they'll find this post.

Powerbook G3 400 mhz Pismo Kernel 2.6 Sweet.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Use the drm inside in the kernel, but without specifical driver, only drm.


What?! Without a specific (rage 128) drm driver, DRM will not work, or am I wrong. This is on 2.6.x, which has the latest drm code. On 2.4.x, one needs xfree-drm.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am currently trying to get 2.6.1_rc1-benh1 up and running on my Pismo. I finally got it to compile correctly after tweaking the conf, but now it does not boot. Does anybody have a working conf I could look at? Thx...d.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

electroarts wrote:
I am currently trying to get 2.6.1_rc1-benh1 up and running on my Pismo. I finally got it to compile correctly after tweaking the conf, but now it does not boot. Does anybody have a working conf I could look at? Thx...d.

Here you go... 2.6.1_rc1-benh1 boots fine on my Pismo 400MHz.
http://www.freewebs.com/diskbreaker/pismo26.conf

  • time to boot longer than 2.4
  • DRM working, slightly faster than in 2.4
  • Airport working
  • Modem working
  • USB working
  • Firewire working (at least with my FW CD-RW)
BTW, have any of you fellow Pismo users tried to use a remote control with your Infrared port?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and Sound output with ALSA works too (alsa-lib 0.9.8 and alsa-xmms 0.9.12).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO I haven't tried to use the infrared port, but I have been trying to get PCMCIA to work (with my wireless card) but I can't get the memory ranges and port settings correct in /etc/pcmcia/config.opts (If anyone got PCMCIA to work on the Pismo can you tell me what your settings are? Thanks)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a PowerBook G3 400 (Pismo) running Gentoo 1.4 and I've been using the 2.4 kernel up until now. Before upgrading to kernel 2.6.1 I was unable to use my graphics card in AGP mode (i.e. had to use ForcePCIMode in XF86config).

Now, however, I can use my builtin Rage 128 mobility chip in AGP mode which gives much better video performance:

glxgears = 437.200 FPS (kernel 2.4: forced pci mode)
glxgears = 510.300 FPS (kernel 2.6)

:D

I'm hoping that will get me stutter-less DVD playback, since it was already very close to watchable in pci mode only.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heimir Freyr wrote:
I've got a PowerBook G3 400 (Pismo) running Gentoo 1.4 and I've been using the 2.4 kernel up until now. Before upgrading to kernel 2.6.1 I was unable to use my graphics card in AGP mode (i.e. had to use ForcePCIMode in XF86config).

Now, however, I can use my builtin Rage 128 mobility chip in AGP mode which gives much better video performance:

glxgears = 437.200 FPS (kernel 2.4: forced pci mode)
glxgears = 510.300 FPS (kernel 2.6)

:D

I'm hoping that will get me stutter-less DVD playback, since it was already very close to watchable in pci mode only.


Did you get PCMCIA to work?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scorp, Thank you for starting this Pismo thread. I hope you can all help me with a few questions, some long standing, some new.
First an easy one:
How exactly do I take advantage of AGP and DRM, just enable DRM in the kernel config?

Two more serious problems for me are sound and my media bay drive.

Drives
In the 2.6 kernel my Pismo, for the first time ever, goes to sleep with my 20G VST media bay hard drive inserted. However, it now does not recognize the partitions on that drive:
Code:
mount: special device /dev/hde11 does not exist


This is a problem because I am still using the original 4G internal drive, and had to move portage to the media bay in order to have any room to work in gentoo. This means no more emerge for me in 2.6.1-r1-benh kernel!
Related question: Can anyone suggest a replacement drive for the 4G drive, which makes the sound of a vaccum cleaner? Something quiet...

Sound
I would really like to listen to realaudio files on this machine. I use realplay with MozillaFirebird
and the sound is harsh and ringing, like listening through a tin can. Is this a realplay problem? It seems like the rest of you do not have this problem. How, exactly, do you listen to realaudio files? Say the hourly news on npr.org? Also, can I listen to audio CDs on the Pismo? How? I tried to watch some Chinese TV series files (Tien Long Ba Bou) that were in real format, but Mplayer complained that I was missing codecs so I gave up on that.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DiskBreaker wrote:
electroarts wrote:
I am currently trying to get 2.6.1_rc1-benh1 up and running on my Pismo. I finally got it to compile correctly after tweaking the conf, but now it does not boot. Does anybody have a working conf I could look at? Thx...d.

Here you go... 2.6.1_rc1-benh1 boots fine on my Pismo 400MHz.
http://www.freewebs.com/diskbreaker/pismo26.conf

]BTW, have any of you fellow Pismo users tried to use a remote control with your Infrared port?

Disk


Using your .conf, I KP on boot.

Er, I've got 2.6.2... Damn.

[edit]
Seems to kernel panic no matter which version I use. :(
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regardless of which version of 2.6 I use, I keep getting the following error:

Code:

kernel BUG in grow_buffers at fs/buffer.c:1191!
Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 5 [#1]


Then then a bunch of stuff and then a call trace of: __getblk, __bread, hfs_mdb_get, hfs_fill_super, get_sb_bdev, hfs_get_sb, do_kern_mount, do_add_mount, do_mount, sys_mount, do_mount_root, mount_block_root, mount_root, prepare_namespace, init. And then:

Code:

Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!


It looks like this is a file system issue. Possibly caused by the fact that I'm using ReiserFS?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very much so.
That ReiserFS compiles for PPC doesn't mean that it actually works.
Haven't tried it myself but people are saying that you shouldn't use it on ppc, and now we can add one more experience to that list.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ernstp wrote:
Very much so.
That ReiserFS compiles for PPC doesn't mean that it actually works.
Haven't tried it myself but people are saying that you shouldn't use it on ppc, and now we can add one more experience to that list.


It works fine for me under the 2.4 kernel. Damn. I don't want to reformat...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nonhuman wrote:
ernstp wrote:
Very much so.
That ReiserFS compiles for PPC doesn't mean that it actually works.
Haven't tried it myself but people are saying that you shouldn't use it on ppc, and now we can add one more experience to that list.


It works fine for me under the 2.4 kernel. Damn. I don't want to reformat...


Works like a charm on my (2.4.22-ben2-r4 kernel) TiBook. :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, reformatted my disk as ext3, now it's booting 2.6.2 just fine. But my ethernet doesn't seem to be working. Which ethernet drivers does the Pismo use?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son of a bitch. I finally got 2.6.2 all installed and configured and stuff (I've been extremely busy lately) and sound and sleep _still_ don't work.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try the dmasound_pmac module. It wakes up correctly. I don't see any need to use alsa. It does not work well with sleep, hangs after boot and when it is finaly running it consumes about 10% of my cpu. Then it hangs there and then while playing music with xmms.
I havn't had these problems with oss. And with oss there's mic support. I don't know why there are so much problems with alsa.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gordin wrote:
try the dmasound_pmac module. It wakes up correctly. I don't see any need to use alsa. It does not work well with sleep, hangs after boot and when it is finaly running it consumes about 10% of my cpu. Then it hangs there and then while playing music with xmms.
I havn't had these problems with oss. And with oss there's mic support. I don't know why there are so much problems with alsa.


Sweet, that worked. I have sound! :D

Now I just need to figure out why it won't sleep...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a pismo, but try out this page.
Under Configurations you can find one for a pismo
Maybe it helps...
Nevertheless the eth-driver should be one of mace, bmac or sungem. Try lspci.
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gordin wrote:
I don't have a pismo, but try out this page.
Under Configurations you can find one for a pismo
Maybe it helps...
Nevertheless the eth-driver should be one of mace, bmac or sungem. Try lspci.


The eth-driver is sungem. That site only has configuration files for 2.4.22 :/
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