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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:05 am    Post subject: Help Deciding what to with new powerbook?!?! Please Help Reply with quote

i know this forum is a lil bias to gentoo, hell i am. stating that i am writting this to find out how ppl here like gentoo on the mac in compairison to the x86. next i would like to know if anyone has tried yellow dog. i normally stay away from rpm distros. just wanted to know if anyone has tried yellow dog and what they like and disliked about it. thinking about trying it. thanks in adavaned for any feedback.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:29 pm    Post subject: less packages Reply with quote

Hello,

I cannot give any comparison with yellowdog since I have not used it.

About the comparison Gentoo x86 / Gentoo PPC : I have installed Gentoo on my Albook 15" Superdrive (1.25 GHz) at the same time as one of my colleagues was installing it on an x86 laptop.
Conclusions :
- the number of packages that do not exist for ppc in Gentoo is quite important, due to the
distribution of binaries. Sometimes frustrating. I admit I have not checked whether other
distributions fix this but I think they probably do not.
- the support of the most recent powerbooks is far from being perfect (in comparison of what
happened with the recent PC) : on the mac, airport does not work, nor the DVI port or the
3D DRI.

Hope it helps (I know I do not address your main point of interest)

Regards,

Xavier
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you for the input. i have just picked up the powerbook today and can not get the install for gentoo to boot. is there anything that i need to consider for this that i do not know about with os 10.3.2
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

What kind of install are you trying to do ? (which CD ? other way ?)

What I did : I have downloaded a 2-discs LiveCD set for PPC (1.4 distro), burnt them and booted using the first one. It booted with no problem and I decided to do a stage 1 install throught the network (long but not too painful if I forget the fact that Reiserfs was not supported so I had to reintall from scratch afterwards).

I have not needed the second CD.

I have been into severe trouble only when I tried to set up the bootloader, but I eventually could make it thanks to an openfirmware reset after editing manually the yaboot configuraation files.
I do not say that everything works perfectly now but I can use the machine very well.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acutally, I forgot one thing:

If you are new to Powerbooks (or Macs in general) : booting on the CD requires holding the C key at startup...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can give you a little Yellow Dog info. I tried it out on my wifes iBook 300mhz. It reminded me a lot of Redhat 8 with a bit of a different look. It is a decent distro if you are into t.hose types of 'automatic' distro's. She just didn't have enough disk space for compiling Gentoo. However, everything worked right after install. The hotkeys, video, sound, etc etc. Very easy for someone who wants to run linux without having to learn about it first. However, it is RPM based (a con IMO) and like Mandy and Redhat it assumes a little too much about how we as users want it to run making for a lot of work to get a custom environment suited to taste. Also, it didn't come with Fluxbox. That is all I use so I set out to install it. Even though I did the full install including the dev packages, it didn't want to compile. I had probs with other compiles as well, unfortunately I don't remember what the problem was but I was able to overcome it. Basically it seemed like out of the box it is not quite ready for development but otherwise things worked well. Oh, and it's a bit bloated. Lots of fat to trim for a system with little resources.

I am running Gentoo on my new iBook (g3 900mhz/640mb) and am very, very happy with it :)

xavier: What do you mean reiserfs is not supported? I am running it right now with no problems. It is quite a bit faster than ext3 I think.
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