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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:16 pm    Post subject: Some general questions about Gentoo and Ibook/Powerbook... Reply with quote

Hi Guys!

I am planning to buy an Ibook or a Powerbook. My question now is if I can use my Gentoo as usual? Is there all the packages out for PPC like for x86??
Because I want to give away my x86 Computer and just want to have the notebook. I hope all my packages like gnome and gimp are also working with PPC...
Sorry for this kind of questions but I hope you guys can help me out...

Thanx in advance...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, gimp and gnome work great under ppc linux, but there are many that don't -- most are propietary games that are distrubited by i386 binaries, so that's no surprise. But anything like gnome and gimp work great.
I have an ibook with 2004.0/2.6.4, and all the important stuff works( sleep, firewire, printing, gl, sound ), and because ppc is sort of a secondary architecture, not every package compiles and works, but some of this can be attributed to portage/problems with my install.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have to say that the only things that have not worked, like mientioned, are games.

all apps that i have tried to install have worked (gimp, openoffice, gnome kde, gaim.... etc.)

some apps have been masked, but it seems that masks are only because the compile has not been thoughroghly tested as of yet, not that it is prone to fail.

also, on my ibook 2.2 (800mhz, 640 ram, combo driver) all the hardware, although i have had trouble with alsa, am now using kernel 2.4, because sound with 2.6 was questionable and some other things were not completely working.


but all aorund , the ppc (at least ibook) battery life is excelent, and eevrything works.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you guys! So I can use my dual-boot as usual :)
Any idea of which one to buy? Ibook or Powerbook? I mean is the ibook of "real" less quality? I am planning to buy an ibook cause the PB is way more expensive...and is a 12" display enough for work or is it hard on the eyes? Any personal experience?
Thanx again guys!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know gnome-2.6 works all right with ppc. There were also some pretty neat packages which supported all of the extra buttons on my powerbook.
I recomend not getting a model which uses the airport extreem card. Not only because there was no linux support..but in comparing it with regular airport cards..it actually performed worse most of the time. It's better to get the regular pcmcia slot anyway since the choice of a different wireless card is actually an option then.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took the pb, because i wanted to have the more advanced options, also i like th looks more...

yes it is more expensive, but worthed every dime :p

i took the 15", not to big and not heavy at all (around 2 kilo or 4 pound)...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I recomend not getting a model which uses the airport extreem card. Not only because there was no linux support..but in comparing it with regular airport cards..it actually performed worse most of the time. It's better to get the regular pcmcia slot anyway since the choice of a different wireless card is actually an option then.


I was planning to use my installed ethernet cable :)
I don´t wanna go wireless at the moment...my ibook should be located on my desk where all my cables are...
But thanx for the advice!
I think I´ll buy an iBook with a 14" Display. Has anyone heard of some production failures e.g. not right fitting battery, not even touchpad and space key? And what about dead pixels? Can I send my iBook in if it has got a dead pixel or is it like with the other regular TFT displays around?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:08 pm    Post subject: dead pixels Reply with quote

Hello,

I think there are not so many dead pixels in TFT screens now.
I had a few ones on my first laptop 5 years ago by my last two are dead pixel free (or I do not remark), which amazes me (a 2 years old IBM T series with 1400x1050 and a 3 months old Albook 15").


In case you would have one or two dead pixels, I am not so sure it would be a reason to send it back (I do not sure they would change it). For more, I would bet they would change it...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I strongly recommend a powerbook over an ibook -- my 12"/900 feels flimsy and cheap, and it gets hot, and the battery sucks (and one MB failure so far). If I could choose a notebook to have instead, I'd say the 15" PB. But if you really want something small, I'd get a 12" ibook or powerbook. The 14" ibook just seems like it's a waste of material, and also less sturdy.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:53 am    Post subject: Albook 15", 1.25 GHz Reply with quote

I do not know other mac laptops but can give you my opinion about the limitations of this one (and add it to skychum comments):

- temperature: it gets really warm at the end of the day; the fan does not start unless I load the CPU (which I often do for hours), but then it is pretty noisy (two speeds).
- battery: here is a big disappointnment. The battery of the PB15" is less powerfull than the one of the PB12" (the batteries of the 17" are significantly more powerfull)... So I can use it during 2h30-3h under linux, if I do not load the CPU and reduce the screen brightness.
- speed: lower than expected (compared to PCs).
- built quality: stunning.

Overall, I am pretty happy with this laptop mainly due to great ergonomics.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have to disagree about what skychum said... i have an iBook 2.2 (800mhz, with 640md ram) an i think the machine performs excelently, any performance issues that i have had were solved by more ram. also, about the battery life, i can watch more that i full dvd, fully on battery life, or about 4 hours just word processing, if you were typing into a ramdisk, on a console, it has been reported as closer to 6 hours..... how is that battery life "sucking"....... the ibook does not feel as metalic as the powerbook, but at the price difference, is thta not to be expected.... for heat, you can spring for a base that cools it, or, as i have done, just put is on two bars of wood..... simple, cheep, efective (and, from experiance, i dont think the powerbook handles heating any better ... at least the titanium one.)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a 12" ibook, they're affordable, fast, fully linux supported in your case since you don't need the wifi. Really good battery life but it sounds like you'll be plugged in most of the time so thats a bonus, slot loading cd-rw/dvd all in an appealing compact chassis. Apple makes really nice TFT screens too. And one other thing about apple laptops is they hold their value, you won't feel the need to replace it every 3-6 months like a PC equivalent.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx again guys...I ordered an iBook 12" with a 60GB HDD and when it ships I'll order a new 512MB S0-Dimm for it and then I should be set :)

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