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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 12:46 am    Post subject: Essential Software Reply with quote

As I'm new to gentoo and fairly new to linux in general I'm looking for some help with getting all the functionality I'm used to in windows.

I'm looking for your advice, experience and tips as for what software I should be looking for and where I can find it.

The biggest things I'm thinking I'll need off the top of my head are these:
Word Processing - Something to replace MS Word
Spreadsheets - Something to replace MS Excel
Presentations - Something to replace MS PowerPoint
Web Browser - I'm thinking of going with Opera, I liked it on PC so why not use it on linux?
DVD/Media Player - Primarily I was using windows media player but wasn't too impressed by it. As for DVDs I used WinDVD.
Email/Schedule - I have two POP mail accounts and one IMAP account. I also used the Outlook calander quite a lot, I found the notes very helpfull as well, kinda like digital post-it notes.
Anti-Virus - Don't think I'll actually need one anymore, does anybody on Linux run AV?
Chat/IM - I currently run AIM+ as well as MSN messenger. I tend to prefer MSN for video chats and AIM+ conversation logging feature.
File Sharing - I run Kazaa Lite K++ edition
PDF - Does adobe make a linux version of Acrobat or is there a linux PDF reader?
CD-Burning - Nero is my tool of choice, do they make a linux version?
Image Editing - Adobe Photoshop 7


That's pretty much anything and everything I can think of. Any other good suggestions would be appricaited, what do you find is your most usefull tools/apps? Thanks for all the help and suggestions.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, you're posting in ppc, so i'll assume you have a mac you're installing linux on ...

Word Processing - OpenOffice or AbiWord (or others)
Spreadsheets - OpenOffice or Gnumeric (or others)
Presentations - OpenOffice (or others)
Web Browser - Opera does run on linux x86 and ppc also there's Mozilla (and ones that embed the browser component like galeon), MozillaFirebird (much slicker), Konqueror (part of kde-base)
DVD/Media Player - mplayer!! (my favorite), xine / for just music: xmms
Email/Schedule - for, IMHO, a better-than-outlook-outlook-clone: Evolution (I'm digging it) ... there exist MANY others apps that do just email, just scheduling, etc.
Anti-Virus - hrm ... "not really" ... there's a lot of Linux AV stuff that can work on email servers to strip email Windows worms though ;-)
Chat/IM - gAIM!!! (my favorite), it supports (as far as I would ever chat on) EVERYTHING
File Sharing - I don't use these programs, but many run on linux as either native apps, java apps, or otherwise
PDF - Adobe has an x86 Linux reader, or the program xpdf
CD-Burning - cdrtools and cdrdao (you get cdrecord for disgustingly powerful command line burning, and if cdrdao is compiled with gtk support, it has a nice GUI app to burn from
Image Editing - the GIMP!!! (my favorite) ... many say "it's just not photoshop," but i ignore those people ... it's photoshop like, and does the job very well ...

hope that helps ... everyone has their favorite program they grow to like, in every category ....
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pretty much agree with the above except:

DVD Player: Ogle
Browser: Galeon
AV: This is Linux, man :D
File Sharing: gtk-gnutella
PDF: xpdf is great, but ggv (ghostscript view) has a nicer interface
Image Editing: If you know Photoshop, GIMP is ... scary. I really need to set aside a day to get friendly with all the tutorial and docs it has ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fafhrd wrote:
well, you're posting in ppc, so i'll assume you have a mac you're installing linux on


Yeah, I'm installing it on a 12 inch powerbook G3.

Thanks for all the advice. I haven't spent much time in Linux outside of the install and basic sw installiation. I have to admit it was fun though, when everybody else was down because of the blaster worm I booted up into linux and went on with business as usual with a sneer.

Thanks for all the advice.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As all the software I wanted to mention has allready been mentioned here's a link to a site you might find interesting:

http://www.linux.net/compat.php

Have fun! :D
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:13 pm    Post subject: Word processing and spread sheeting Reply with quote

I personally didn't get OpenOffice to emerge, but yellow dog linux maintains a ppc binary that worked fine (though probably slower than best case). I also had to fiddle around with where the $<openOffice>.desktop stuff was located for it to show up on the gnome menu, though this was likely a quirk of my configuration.

I've used abbi word a little, but I like OpenOffice because it looks "copy right infringment" close to an earlier version of word (I didn't have to learn much new), and can read and write MS office documents with no trouble. At least not that I've run into.

As to gimp, in some respects it's more logicaly laid out (in my oppinion obviously) than photoshop (at least the photoshop versions up to ~7, which are all I've used), but it is rather different. The difference is everything in gimp you access by contextual menues, and the same things in photoshop would be in pulldown menues. Other than that, they have a similar feature set, and gimp is pretty good. The caviat is I was mostly using it to scan and retouch (i.e. alter level, a little cleaning up, format) line drawings, so I'm not really familier with all it's quirks/capacities. If you're a real die hard photoshopper, there's always mol (but you'd need to get your hands on a copy of photoshop for mac).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gnumeric is by far one of the most advanced Spreadsheet apps available today. It can do 100% of the things excel can, plus something like 60 other things.

Abiword is pretty nice for documents that most people do. It doesn't do things like wordart and doesn't have macros for things such as setting up the word processor for making a letter or resume instantly (thinking for you). aspell is the GNU spell checking program and is very advanced, so you have that feature, plus a myriad of cool plugins that other word processors simply don't have, such as look up a word in wikipedia.org, google, translation of words/docs, etc... Kword has more advanced 'table' support, which is generally used for making desktop publications and such, but Abiword 2.2 is supposed to have improved table support. Abiword supports many proprietary formats into a state where you can at least read them. In a corporate environment you might need MS Office, but at least then you don't have to buy it, your employer does. Refuse to use non-free software for personal use at least. I would

For importing powerpoint your going to most likely want openoffice impress.

Soon you'll hopefully be writing in LaTeX using VIM, Emacs, or Lyx.

Openoffice writer has PDF export so that may be useful. Personally I haven't been able to justify going throught the trouble building openoffice.org.

I would without a doubt recommend Galeon as your browser if you are using GTK apps/Gnome libs.

You'll find a lot of applications that are quite comparable to their non-free software counterparts as far as practicality goes. Eventually though you'll learn that we have more powerful tools such as command-line mail clients, etc...

Also since you're new don't forget to read gnu.org/philosophy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hbmartin wrote:
I pretty much agree with the above except:


AV: This is Linux, man :D
Image Editing: If you know Photoshop, GIMP is ... scary. I really need to set aside a day to get friendly with all the tutorial and docs it has ;)



My 3 cents: :)

Gimp is KING! I have used photoshop extensively, and in my experience Gimp is far far better.

Concerning Email, for myself, I prefer KMail for an email client. It is very configurable, and extremely stable.

I used and loved evolution, however it was sooo unstable I finally gave up after 4 versions of it still continually crashing and destroying my accounts tables after making changes in them. I add/change email accounts often due to the nature of my work, especially in testing email servers. Whenever I made the simplest change, I cringed every time I hit save wondering if that was going to be the death blow, and more often than not it was. If you don't mind that problem, and once configured, don't make changes, then evolution is a great product. It never misbehaved for me except in the matter of editing accounts.

So KMail has been absolutely the best.. Schedulers and Calendars are available easily so they don't need to be integrated.

A/V is an ABSOLUTE MUST even with linux! There are a large number of linux dangers out there, and anyone who thinks they are impervious to the dangers because they run linux needs to re-think their priorities.

I have messed with many A/V packages, and one of the best ones is a commercial package by CommandSoftware :

http://www.commandsoftware.com

They have a commandline scanner which can be run from cron, and a single user home license that is quite inexpensive. I have found csav to be one of the best, fastest products out there with very fast virus definition updates when needed.

I have yet to find a GUI A/V scanner for a linux desktop like is available for windoze. I would like one simply for its ability to dynamically scan all i/o on the machine in real time.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For your "File Sharing" you might want to look into mldonkey, it runs in the background as a service. It's nice to have it up all the time without having to leave an account logged in. That and it can also connect to almost every network out there. Give it a look at http://www.nongnu.org/mldonkey/ also its in portage for easy install... yes easy...

Anyways, good luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For cd/dvd burning I recommend k3b.

file sharing : aMule or mldonkey (I use xMule but the project is abandonned so I might switch to mldonkey or aMule).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gimp is KING! I have used photoshop extensively, and in my experience Gimp is far far better.


Full Ack. Since graphic tablet support has become better, photoshop is off my machine.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You never don't need a virus scanner. It may be linux, but they do exist... and everyone knows that an ounce of prevention amounts to a pound of cure.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:37 pm    Post subject: Filesharing Reply with quote

As for filesharing, you should look into either gtk-gnutella or giftd. giftd is a daemon (you can use separate gui's to interface with it) that supports many different protocols including FASTTRACK (read: KaZaa), OpenFT, gnutella, and some others.
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