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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 1:24 am    Post subject: Macs that go to sleep but never wake Reply with quote

On my PowerBook 1GHz, any kernel after 2.6.3-benh2 causes a crash when I put the poor thing to sleep. I haven't read a thing about it in the forums. Is no one else afflicted?

I'm using pbbuttonsd v.0.5.11, apmd v.3.2.1_p4.



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here on a Titanium PowerBook 500MHz. I don't know what the deal is. Though at least it sleeps unlike my 15" Aluminium PowerBook 1.25GHz :).
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same Problem here on my ibook when using 2.6.4, 2.6.5 kernels. Trying to put it to sleep causes a kernel oops and that is it. :evil:

I don´t know what causes the problem but at least I´m not alone.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the g4 ibook: actually we don't konw how to restart the ati chipset after a sleep. I've heard that benh is going to obtain this informations from ati's engineers as soon as possibile.
For the g4 pbook: I think it has the same problem of G4 ibook, but with another video card.

The only thing we've to do is wait... :(
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Micron, since you seem to be informed on this sort of thing, do you have any idea what the status of sleep on the Aluminiun PowerBooks is?

Is there a mailing list or some place I can monitor for information on this? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info micron.
The strange thing is that I´m having this problem on a g3 ibook and sleep works fine up to kernel 2.6.3-benh2.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for my poor english...

I am not sure that's same as my case.

4 days ago
I had re setting my kernel (2.6.4-pegasos) for using my digital camera(nikon coolpix 4300) and usb audio(xitel hifi-link dg2). with hotplug and alsa-dirver.
After setting , I can use them all everything fine.

but, I know my kernel has problem when sleep mode.
about, 2 or 3 time re setting kernel. that problem has gone.

I am not sure which kernel part make that happen.
I just check my kernel log, but I don't remember.. and
I try to remove useless part from kernel. Serial IDE-cdrom(I am using SCSI emulater.) and so on.
I just suspect under somthing I2C hardware bus support even if that stay modules, but not sure.

After that all thing work fine with camera and usb audio.

My iBook is G3 600Mh
gcc version is 3.2.3 20030422
pbbuttonsd version is 0.5.11
x11 is xorg-11 6.7.0
kernel ppc-development-sources-2.6.4
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

terry wrote:
My iBook is G3 600Mh

On G3 machines sleeps works fine.
amitofu wrote:
Micron, since you seem to be informed on this sort of thing, do you have any idea what the status of sleep on the Aluminiun PowerBooks is?

Is there a mailing list or some place I can monitor for information on this? Thanks.

I don't know exacltly the status of this work...
All the infos I know come from people talking directly with Benh. I'll ask him how to stay informed without adding a sendmail into my cron :)
I'll let you know
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

micron wrote:
terry wrote:
My iBook is G3 600Mh

On G3 machines sleeps works fine.


No it doesn´t. At least not for me using any kernel from 2.6.4 upward.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ralph wrote:
No it doesn´t. At least not for me using any kernel from 2.6.4 upward.

I don't know what kernel works at 100% on G3 machine because I have a G4 one.
Searching on google and on this forum I've always read that sleep works as under macosx, maybe you've some problem with DRI accelleration... but I'm only supposing, I'm not sure...
Try a search in this forum and you'll get lot of topics about G3 laptops and sleep :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, sorry that´s not what I meant. (Didn´t make myself clear probably).

Sleep on G3 ibooks works fine, but only up to kernel 2.6.3.
It is broken in newer kernel versions, that is my problem.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ralph wrote:
Sleep on G3 ibooks works fine, but only up to kernel 2.6.3.
It is broken in newer kernel versions, that is my problem.

Now I've understand your problem :wink:

Here's what answered Benh to me:
Behn wrote:
I've started reverse engineering the MacOS driver since ATI doesn't seem
to be as responsive as they used to be, but this will take some time. I'm
sure it will be noisy enough when that works, but you can still monitor
the linuxppc-dev or debian-ppc lists for announces.

This isn't a good news... danmed ATI!! :evil:
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:51 pm    Post subject: this is sad news indeed... Reply with quote

The ATI hardware is really a problem for linux users on Albooks.

Could we sum up all the subsequent difficulties :
- no video acceleration. What can we expect there ? Last time I checked, the news were bad also (long wait before it is supported)
- sleep mode ? I did not expect the ATI hardware to suck it up...

What else ?
More information about the video acceleration ?

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: this is sad news indeed... Reply with quote

xavier10 wrote:
More information about the video acceleration ?

I'm using an ibook G4 with an ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 and I'm successfully using the video accelleration.
Code:
glxgears
3159 frames in 5.0 seconds = 631.800 FPS
3203 frames in 5.0 seconds = 640.600 FPS
3144 frames in 5.0 seconds = 628.800 FPS
3159 frames in 5.0 seconds = 631.800 FPS
3193 frames in 5.0 seconds = 638.600 FPS

I don't know what kind of video card you're using, but with mine things aren't so bad...
Try a search on this forum and you'll surely find lots of informations :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: Radeon 9600 Reply with quote

I got a Radeon 9600... Newer so probably better but less supported !

I am sure it is a good card. However, I almost never use MacOS so I cannot use
video acceleration.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ralph wrote:
No, sorry that´s not what I meant. (Didn´t make myself clear probably).

Sleep on G3 ibooks works fine, but only up to kernel 2.6.3.
It is broken in newer kernel versions, that is my problem.

I'm having the same problem here. Does anybody know of a fix yet? I can't find anything in the forums.
Many thanks,

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