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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:45 pm    Post subject: [TIP]: Running a raw VMWare WinXP (w2k/w98?) guest in gentoo Reply with quote

[NOTE: This is NOT a complete guide to running VMWare. Everything necessary to get VMWare up and running (with or without using a raw Windows partition) is provided by the VMWare documentation.]

It has been asked on these forums before how to get a raw WinXP partition booted in VMWare. It is very common to get a blue screen STOP error when attempting to do this because of driver differences between what VMWare expects (ie., Intel IDE drivers) and what you may have physically (ie., VIA IDE drivers).

The solution to the problem was discovered in the following thread:
http://www.vmware.com/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=40243&#40243

and here is the link referenced in the above thread that provides the solution (scroll to the part that explains merging a registry entry and supplying various ide drivers):
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=314082

This discovery was not my own, I just wanted to pass it on as finding this information is a bit difficult.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gimme a good reason why I should use a raw partition in Vmware :?: I love the virtual partition stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can be quite useful when you have a dual-boot system. Some applications require acceleration that cannot be provided through VMware, while others don't. So why have one native windows installation, and one virtual?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malloq wrote:
So why have one native windows installation, and one virtual?


Hardware support. I cannot use high quality audio in VMware, not access my serial port directly, nor use my USB scanner properly. Not to mention the Nvidia drivers. Alll these things can be propely done in a dual boot system, but not in Vmware.
Thus, the config of a "real' and a virtual Windows installation is too different, imho.

That's why I see no reason to use a raw drive in Vmware.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank's, finally i can do a backup install in vmware then export to a phisical machine whitout BSOD.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlterEgo wrote:
Malloq wrote:
So why have one native windows installation, and one virtual?


Hardware support. I cannot use high quality audio in VMware, not access my serial port directly, nor use my USB scanner properly. Not to mention the Nvidia drivers. Alll these things can be propely done in a dual boot system, but not in Vmware.
Thus, the config of a "real' and a virtual Windows installation is too different, imho.

That's why I see no reason to use a raw drive in Vmware.


Set up different hardware profiles for native boot and VMware boot. You'll get full boost from hardware-optimized drivers when booting natively, and use VMware-drivers when booting via VMware.

At least Windows XP supports setting up mulitple hardware profiles. During Windows boot you'll be asked to select a hardware profile. This way you don't have to waste the GB's necessary for multiple Windows installs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malloq is correct - the VMWare suggested technique is to use the hardware profile support.

Quick & Dirty - Make a copy of your existing hardware profile and name it 'virtual' or somesuch. Then reboot and select that profile. Disable all the hardware that VMWare will virtualize (graphics card, sound card, etc). This isn't necessary, but it can help. Then boot into linux, launch VMWare and boot into the 'virtual' profile. VMWare/Windows will sync up your new 'virutal' hardware and you'll be off and running. When you do need to dual-boot back to your regular windows for the latest game or whatever, it'll still be there untouched.

As for why this is useful? Since I do bounce between environments, I like the flexibility to load up XP while in linux to do whatever I need within the limits of vmware, and have that stuff persist and be readily accessible when I physically boot back over. Otherwise, having to maintain two XP installs (one real and one virutal) becomes quite tedious.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Malloc, I never considered that option.
(largely because I use W'98 as my VM :D )
Cheers, AE
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote a more detailed description on how I got this working...it involved a few hard to track down tidbits. If interested, take a look here.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having a real WinXP partition loaded via vmware is very useful. I can do university practises in Visual Studio, test if all looks good in my projects when opened in office xp, electronic practices using pspice and protel, etc, without having to shut down linux (and mldonkey :)) and rebooting to winxp.

And as it's a real partition, I can boot on Windows if my gentoo installation gets messed up, or some program (like encarta 2004) doesn't install well via vmwre, or I want to play NFS Underground or Doom3 (I'm selling my ATI Radeon 9600Pro and geting a Geforce 5700 so this won't be no more soon ;)).

TIP: Connect to your XP virtual machine via rdp and then connect from that "remote windows" to your gentoo via vnc. I'ts funny :D:D:D
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