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gnufreax
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Should I waste OS X? Reply with quote

I have the 2004.2 ppc livecd and i am asking me if i could waste osx...
I only need some software for school and now i am asking YOUU Gentoo PPC User´s what you think of my plan:
Reformat my IBook G4
with an 10 GB Linux / partition
and 17.5 GB Data partition
512 MB swap and no OSX
right now I ve got following partition map:
6.8 Mac OS X 10.3 HFS+
512MB SWAP
4.5 GB Gentoo / JFS
16.3 GB Data HFS+

My problem is I NEED:
Microsoft Office for Visual Basic
SVG support
MS Access (runs on OSX via Virtual PC)
Full Bluetooth support
Full VGA support does this work via XOrg?
Full sleep support. (Close IBook screen and it sleeps open it and it works and it asks you for login like OSX)
So what should i do?
How could i solve most of my problems?
Any ideas are welcome
THANX for reading
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:57 pm    Post subject: You need OSX for MOL Reply with quote

Doesn't look like you have much of an option and have to keep OSX!

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My problem is I NEED:
Microsoft Office for Visual Basic
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MS Access (runs on OSX via Virtual PC)

If you're thinking you can run these through MOL (Mac On Linux) You're right, BUT you have to have a separate OSX partition with them installed. If that's really all you'd ever do on OSX, then you could maybe get away with a 5 or 6 Gig partiton for OSX, applications and data (for MS Access etc.)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think you could slim a few pounds off, enough to run osx (it doesnt need too much, maybe give it 4 gigs..)


you could use mol, but using vpc, which is already really slow, under mol (which is not nearly as slow, but its definately slower than the real thing) would result in really crappy performance.... access is database right? how does openoffice handle that? whether your using osx or not, haveing a native app would be better. and a lot faster.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:14 pm    Post subject: I think qemu is better than Open Office.. Reply with quote

But nobody can tell me exact hhings about Qemu on PPC,like benchmarks or screenshots like M$ Access on Gentoo PPC under Qemu.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think you missunderstood my meaning. i was advocating one of two things:
useing a different database program.
or
keeping osx for that specific purpose.


i have not heard much about qemu, and that most likely is because performance or stability is not to a stable level.

i think you could shave the main linux partition down to 8 gigs (easily) and hopefully 15.5 gigs would be enough for data.... that would let you have a 4gig partition for osx (which is necesary whether or not you go native or use mol)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If those applications are your priority you should really just invest in a windows platform, if there's any flexibility in the NEED department , however, there are many comparable or better alternatives.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've actually become a bit of a convert to OS X, I was expecting to install Gentoo PPC straight away on my new Powerbook, but the combination of hardware niggles putting me off and that OS X satisfies my Unix desires quite adequately I haven't bothered.

The only reason I feel the need to run Linux now is an incessant tinkering urge and a light feeling that I should be running only free software on my PC. Pragmatically speaking, OS X with Fink is great, and OS X with Gentoo OS X is going to be even better.

P.S. I still have a Gentoo x86 box which runs as an ssh box, print server and file server, so I think I'm still allowed to hang about here :p
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After my new Powerbook arrived I began my period of exploring OS X and 'researching' Linux on the Powerbook.... 4 months ago.

For all the reasons mentioned below plus back-to-back projects at work I haven't made much progress in converting the PB to Linux. Sigh.

Elm0 wrote:
I've actually become a bit of a convert to OS X, I was expecting to install Gentoo PPC straight away on my new Powerbook, but the combination of hardware niggles putting me off and that OS X satisfies my Unix desires quite adequately I haven't bothered.

The only reason I feel the need to run Linux now is an incessant tinkering urge and a light feeling that I should be running only free software on my PC. Pragmatically speaking, OS X with Fink is great, and OS X with Gentoo OS X is going to be even better.

P.S. I still have a Gentoo x86 box which runs as an ssh box, print server and file server, so I think I'm still allowed to hang about here :p

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, tough choice. I really love the Mac (die hard mac addict here) but I have also fallen in love with Gentoo. Personally, I'd keep my Mac running OSX (great os and great hardware, they are meant for each other). And I would run Gentoo on seperate hardware. But if you want to use Gentoo as your main platform on a ppc, then I recommend that you either find linux alternatives for your app needs as has been suggested or continue dual booting a stripped down OSX. If you really only want one OS, then concider looking at substitutes for the apps you need.

Why do you NEED those apps anyway?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must keep OSX because :

1 -ripping CD is must faster with iTunes than anything under linux.

2 - Watching DVD under OSX consume less power (3h15 autonomy) than in Linux (1h30 autonomy).

3- I cannot access the iTMS from linux

4- iPod firmware updates are done from OSX
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does sleep mode work now ?

i had install a debian on my ibook g4 a few month ago, and i reinstall OS X after 1 month because :

1. No sleep mode
2. No Airport Extrem
3. Can't update my IPOD
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