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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:02 pm    Post subject: Tutorial for Gentoo Install thru MOL Install on PowerBook? Reply with quote

Hi all you PPC Linux users!

I have an 8-month-old 12" PowerBook (1 GHz) that I think I've worked up the courage to install Gentoo on. However, I am getting fairly fond of OS X, so I would like to either dual-boot or use Mac-on-Linux. Seeing as I have been an x86-only kind of guy for a long time, I am completely ignorant of the appropriate partitioning schemes to get MOL to work correctly (as I understand it, one needs to make sure the partition table is set up correctly for MOL). Does anyone know of a Gentoo How-to or tutorial that would take me from the Gentoo Installation through the appropriate MOL partitioning to installing MOL? Is anyone straight dual-booting? With the few things that aren't quite working yet on the PowerBook (Airport Extreme, nVidia hardware acceleration, Sleep), is it even worth it? Can I hear from some newer PowerBook owners and their experiences running Gentoo/MOL on their laptops? Thanks ahead of time!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't tried this with OS X, but MOL will quite happily install/boot OS 9 into a big (1GB) dmg file. Actually, I was using the same dmg file on a PC, years ago to boot OS 8 under Executor. Then i found BasiliskII and after that MOL. It's so awesome that those oldies still run. Anyway--enough retro nostalgia--my point was that you don't necessarily need a separate partition for each OS. You might be able to just install gentoo on the whole drive and put OS X in a DMG file under MOL. (I dual boot Gentoo/Panther. I need the fat, slow cat for mathematica which is very fussy about copy protection and won't run under MOL, because it thinks it's running on a different machine.)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply. How do you dual-boot Gentoo and Panther? What does your partition table look like? If I wanted to use MOL, would I need to have a special partition table, or is it less finicky than I had anticipated? I would really like to know that it won't be a terribly drawn-out and complicated process; the Gentoo Handbook for PPC seems a little thin on the PPC-only aspects of installing Gentoo and like I've mentioned, I'm an x86-head. I've installed Gentoo enough times to know what I'm doing for the most part, but I don't want to risk b0rking my machine because I'm unfamiliar with the architecture. Again, any help is most welcome!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Below is what mac-pdisk says. I started out with only OS X installed and used parted to non-destructively shrink the OS X partition 50% and installed gentoo in the remainder of the drive.

gentoo is /dev/hda11 and OS X is on /dev/hda10

I had to swap the order of partitions 10 and 11 because Mac OS X would not boot unless it came before the gentoo partition.

Anyway, I don't pretend to understand most of the nonsense below--like everything macintosh, it appears needlessly complex. OpenFirmware is just plain bizzare.

MOL boots Panther just fine w/o any modification to the partition table. (Of course, installing gentoo w/o demolishing OS X did involve the partition table and parted.)

Below is the output of mac-fdisk. I think OS X has something similar called pdisk.
Code:

Command (? for help): p
/dev/hda
        #                    type name                 length   base     ( size )  system
dump: name /dev/hda len 8
/dev/hda1     Apple_partition_map Apple                    63 @ 1        ( 31.5k)  Partition map
/dev/hda2          Apple_Driver43 Macintosh                54 @ 64       ( 27.0k)  Driver 4.3
/dev/hda3          Apple_Driver43 Macintosh                74 @ 118      ( 37.0k)  Driver 4.3
/dev/hda4        Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh                54 @ 192      ( 27.0k)  Unknown
/dev/hda5        Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh                74 @ 246      ( 37.0k)  Unknown
/dev/hda6          Apple_FWDriver Macintosh               200 @ 320      (100.0k)  Unknown
/dev/hda7      Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh               512 @ 520      (256.0k)  Unknown
/dev/hda8           Apple_Patches Patch Partition         512 @ 1032     (256.0k)  Unknown
/dev/hda9         Apple_Bootstrap untitled               2048 @ 39070444 (  1.0M)  NewWorld bootblock
/dev/hda10              Apple_HFS untitled           39068900 @ 1544     ( 18.6G)  HFS
/dev/hda11        Apple_UNIX_SVR2 untitled           36971028 @ 39072492 ( 17.6G)  Linux native
/dev/hda12        Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap                2096640 @ 76043520 (1023.8M)  Linux swap

Block size=512, Number of Blocks=78140160
DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0
Drivers-
1: @ 64 for 23, type=0x1
2: @ 118 for 36, type=0xffff
3: @ 192 for 21, type=0x701
4: @ 246 for 34, type=0xf8ff

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But be warned: If you install OS X with the help of MOL you won't be able to boot into it; you can only boot into it with MOL. You must install it natively, if you want to do real dualboot.
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