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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:32 pm    Post subject: Any sucess with the 2004.2 PPC 32bit Live CD's yet? Reply with quote

anyone have luck with these yet? Let me know thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are these the standard 2004.2 discs? I installed fine off of one. Follow the manual and its real easy.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my iBook G4:
I got a working console (albeit with a flickering display) using the install CD. I decided not to go any further.
I've booted the xlivecd up until the console resets itself (and then the filesystems, modules load) but I consistantly got a blank screen before i saw the penguin, each time, the only way out was to reset using powerbutton.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my g5 hates it... it goes to a blank screen (I dun remember if it was black or grey.. I get different screen colors depending on my problem) and that was that... another gentoo cd in the trash (this makes it HOW many :cry: )

If you have a G5, why aren't you trying to get tgall's 64 bit cd to work? Getting started is a bit weird, what I had to do was the following:
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modprobe sungem
dhcpcd eth0
mac-fdisk /dev/sda (currently having problems with his version, plz post if you try it and tell me if it works or not)
mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo (replace sda3 w/ whatever is your root partition)
cd /mnt/gentoo
curl http://dev.gentoo.org/~tgall/stage1-ppc64-20040802.tar.bz2

from there it should be almost just like the install manual. Just an FYI, on stage 1, you'll crash w/ a libstdc++-v3, change your CFLAGS to be JUST "-O" (that's the letter o, not the number) and emerge libstdc++-v3. Once you're done, it's safe to set your flags back to normal and retry the script succssfully (I personally don't want to try that before the first attempt to run the script because I'd have about 30 programs that are optimized poorly and the rest correctly =/)

Have fun!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used it, I believe. The file I used from BitTorrent was install-ppc-minimal-2004.2.iso, so I think that's what you're asking about.

It worked fine for booting up my Blue&White G3. (Oddly, one out of the 5 or so times I booted it up, the yaboot screen was at some weird, very low resolution [640x480?], but every other time it looked fine [1024x768?])

Everything worked fine right through the entire Gentoo Handbook installation guide. (And I'm 99.9% sure that the fact that everything blew up after my first reboot had absolutely nothing to do with the CD. I think I must've done something wrong somewhere ;))
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the currently recommended ppc install media 2004.1 or 2004.2?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used bittorrent to get the 2004.2 iso. I followed the handbook to the letter for the install on my G4 Windtunnel. Everything went pretty well. I got a 2.6.7 kernel, devfs and no NPTL.

Has anyone had success with newer kernels, udev + hotplug, or NPTL?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rsala wrote:
Has anyone had success with newer kernels, udev + hotplug, or NPTL?


On my old powermac 7200/90 I have udev + hotplug working fine with the 2.6.9 kernel. I compiled it based on the configs in the arch/ppc directory for pmac, and of course updated the config a bit as well.

If it works on my old one, I'd think it should work on the newer ones. I can't of course use the new install CD's and had to use a 1.4 rc6 version to come up with Gentoo, and it's taken about a week of straight compiling to end up with a working system with X. Though I have color problems I can't resolve right now.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rsala wrote:
Has anyone had success with newer kernels, udev + hotplug, or NPTL?


NPTL works fine on all my machines (five of them, different ages up to and including a dual G5), you just need to emerge linux26-headers in place of linux-headers (if this is not already done), insert nptl in your USE flags and reemerge glibc. Will try udev sometimes soon, but I don't know about it yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since my previous post 2.6.9 has been marked stable. It built and is running fine so far.

I rebuilt glibc with "nptl & threads" added to my use flags. That also seemed to go well. I am currently rebuilding the whole machine with these flags -- I'm not sure why, but it can't hurt.

I emerged udev and hotplug and that is generally working except during boot I get a message complaining about being unable to init the console and then the messages go away until the login prompt appears. I then rebuilt the kernel adding devfs back in (but not automatically mount at boot), but the problem persists. I added hotplug to the default runlevel. Does it belong in boot -- or am I doing somthing else wrong?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rsala wrote:
I rebuilt glibc with "nptl & threads" added to my use flags. That also seemed to go well. I am currently rebuilding the whole machine with these flags -- I'm not sure why, but it can't hurt.

This should not be necessary (but it cannot hurt either ;-) ).
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I emerged udev and hotplug and that is generally working except during boot I get a message complaining about being unable to init the console and then the messages go away until the login prompt appears.

You may want to look here for a possible solution to the dissapearing messages.
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I added hotplug to the default runlevel. Does it belong in boot -- or am I doing somthing else wrong?

hotplug should be in the default runlevel alright.

In any case, I am glad to hear that udev is working well, I have been wanting for a long time to try it out, now I will do it--on my wife's machine first, that goees without saying. :evil:
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruda wrote:

You may want to look here for a possible solution to the dissapearing messages.

Damn, I found only afterwards the right link, right from the mouth of the Gentoo documenters. The Web page is instructive in all respects, it also contains a discussion about hotplug and the newer coldplug (you have to unmask them if you use the ppc keyword) which may be pertinent to your case.

My wife's machine should now be converted to udev (cold plug and all), time for a reboot... yep, all is nice and dandy (and my wife was gracious enough in her role as a guineea pig ;-) ).
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks bruda! I did rtfm but I though by building devfs into my kernel I wouldn't have to make the device nodes.

I see that colplug is masked unstable. You say it worked ok for you?

btw, since you've been so helpful, do you have any ideas regarding another post I have?

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=248020&sid=26eae4f20a8ad849cbc0bbfe95cb19d8
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I am on udev as we speak, coldplug and all. My wife's machine worked out of the box, I had to do the trick with creating /dev/console and /dev/null on my machine (whose initial Getoo installation is older).

As for the mouse, I am afraid I don't have any idea. My guess is though that the mouse is alright and the culprit is the openbox menu. Have you seen anything out of ordinary in the X output (terminal or .xsession-errors depending on how you started it). Sorry for not being able to help.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put it on my G3 ibook, and all works fine as it did with 2004.0. Newer kernel, gcc and glibc plus xorg.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I set dev.mac_hid.mouse_button3_keycode = 88, openbox will recognize it as if the right mouse button was clicked. So this makes me think its a mouse issue, but if I use the default window manager it can recognize the right mouse click, and `cat /dev/input/mice` outputs characters to the screen when the right mouse button is pressed -- this make me think it is an openbox issue.

btw bruda, when I added:
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sys-apps/coldplug ~ppc

to my package.keywords, emerge still complains about sys-apps/coldplug-20040920 being masked by ~ppc. How did you emerge it?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rsala wrote:
this make me think it is an openbox issue.

It must be an openbox issue, mice are typically window manager agnostics. I have no experience with openbox though so I don't know what to do.
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btw bruda, when I added:
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sys-apps/coldplug ~ppc

to my package.keywords, emerge still complains about sys-apps/coldplug-20040920 being masked by ~ppc. How did you emerge it?

Are you sure it complains about coldplug being masked and not hotplug? coldplug requires a newer hotplug so you will have to unmask hotplug as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOH!
What I actually had was:
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sys-apps/colplug ~ppc

When I fixed that, it indeed wanted the unstable hotplug, when I emerged them both and ran etc-update, none of my modules got loaded at boot -- including the ones for my usb keyboard. Is there a howto on coldplug I should be cheacking out?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run
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rc-update add coldplug default

as instructed by the hotplug ebuild.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks bruda you helped me with a lot of nits that I should have figured out for myself.
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Now if I can just figure out why openbox doesn't like my right mouse button I'll be at 100%!
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