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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:18 am    Post subject: Hose OF with a boot CD? Reply with quote

I was trying to make an OS9 boot CD, using OS9 to get the yaboot part setup, and then OSX for the OS9 part. Basicly, it came from a bet that I couldn't get a bootable OS9 CD without booting into OS9.

It's an 800MHz iBook, dual USB 12 inch screen.

What I did:
I booted the CD, and it showed up as a bootable volume, then OF flickered so things weren't looking *quite* right, but close enough that I didn't assume anything wrong. It tried to boot the CD, but I hadn't included all the right files for OS9 to boot (oops).

What happens and what I tried:
Now when I try to boot, I get the boot chime, and then nothing. It won't reset pram with the (cmd+opt+p+r), won't boot into OF at all as far as I can tell since the screen stays black. If I put a CD in the drive, the drive spins up for about 30 seconds, then slows to a stop. My USB mouse doesn't light up at all. I tried putting a OSX install CD and holding down "c" to boot from it, but no response (other than mentioned spin-up), and tried with a monitor plugged in with the dongle. The monitor stayed black. The keyboard IS getting power at least - the caps-lock light goes on and off; however, the numlock light doesn't. I also tried disconnecting battery and power cord, and a) holding down the power-key to drain any left over trickle of energey and b) leaving is sitting unplugged for about 10 hours.

Here's the yaboot.conf I had on the boot CD.
Code:

#boot=/dev/hda15
message=/boot/welcome
defaultos=macos
device=cd:
delay=2
timeout=40
install=/boot/yaboot
magicboot=/boot/ofboot
#magicboot=/boot/ofboot.b?

## Change the default colors, fgcolor is the text color, bgcolor is
## the screen background color. (default: fgcolor=white, bgcolor=black)
fgcolor=white
bgcolor=blue
enableofboot
nobless
nonvram
macos=cd:


Could these results be because of the yaboot.conf?

Thanks!
~Michael[/code][/quote]
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would try to boot from an original OS 9 CD. That should work. I sometimes messed up OF on my Pulsar (oldworld) and that was the only way to set things straight again. Maybe you messed up OF. The reason could be, that you need OF to boot your computer and yaboot loads after OF. That's why I think open firmware is broke.
What I don't understand is, why did you try to make a bootable OS 9 CD
with yaboot on it?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What I don't understand is, why did you try to make a bootable OS 9 CD
with yaboot on it?


My boss said it was impossible to make an OS 9 boot CD form within OSX. If I prove him wrong, he buys all us students lunch.
My plan was to make a simple iso that had a yaboot setup that would point to the /macos/System Folder. I'd make this in Gentoo, then he could use the iso to make a new diskwith whatever OS 9 programs he wanted, as long as System Folder was in the right place for yaboot to point to it.

It seemed like a good plan : \
~Michael
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to be difficult. What do you use Disc Copy, Toast..? There is a free tool called BootCD, but I'm not sure if it burns a OS 9 bootable CD.
You need a blessed System Folder on the CD. Can't tell you at the moment how to. I'll post if I find out.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't matter what I use. BootCD can't create a bootable OS 9 CD - it just creates a cd clone of whatever your current system is.
I had the 9 CD blessed, so I dont' think that was the problem.

You can find instructions here:
http://www.bombich.com/mactips/image.html
The command is roughly:
Code:
sudo bless -folder9 /Volumes/Backup/System\ Folder -bootBlocks


See the webpage for syntax, or the man page.

~Michael
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, seems as if there is really no way. Did you get your ibook going?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, seems as if there is really no way. Did you get your ibook going?


I think it is possible still, I think something just went wrong. It should work in theory, it's just I have no practice to compare it to! :-0

I didn't get the iBook going, but Apple rocks. I've sent it in about 5-6 (famed logic board problems) times in the last 2 years, so this time on the phone with them I asked if they had a lemon policy, and after some talking, I am now getting a free upgrade from my Nov'02 G3 800MHz iBook, to a brand new G4 1Ghz, with an AE card thrown in for good measure.

It's just a pity that the linux support isn't as good for the G4's Nvidia and AE....

~Michael
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