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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:44 am    Post subject: Which ppc notebook is best for gentoo linux? Reply with quote

I don't know well, but there is
G4 powerbook, G4 ibook, G3 ibook, and so on.
In same cpu class, there is some diffreant each model, just I heard

So I just wonder which ppc notebook is best for gentoo linux.
What do you think?(may in future, I will buy :-)

In my case,
I using G3 ibook 600Mhz RAM 384M hard 20G video ram 8M dvd.
I mostly happy using my ibook.
but some time, if a little more cpu speed and video ram.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been a bazillion posts about this. iBook G3 is the best. Everything works except for the modem and the microphone.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

:oops: Sorry, I had to more search.
and thanks for replay,

I had read some thing simular posting about 6 month ago.

Just my thought, now best notebook is G3 ibook has more than 700MHz cpu.

But, I think passing the time can make some diffrent,
I don't know well about apple hardware, but there is new many hardwear in
apple. so may there can be some change.
And there is no new iBook G3, that mean it's becoming hard to get
iBook G3, in acution site there is more G4 iBook than G3 iBook.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Unless you're a real big fan of Airport Extreme, I would recommend getting an ibook G4 with the 1GHz+ speeds and the gig of ram upgrade. Everything except that (okay, and maybe the modem) works great in linux. I've heard people say stuff about sleeping, but I don't seem to have much of a problem there. I'm on a 933 ibook g4 myself. I hope someday I can afford to upgrade my ram on my precious to the 1128MB mark (gig + built in 128). That would be cool as my current 256 suffices, but I know some things could be very much improved with more ram.

In any case, if you're looking for price though, I would still stick with a used ibook g3, unless the g4 is around the same price. I dunno, I don't do much searching for used computers. But if you have the money to burn a hole in...errr..to spare, then go out and get yourself a top of the line ibook. Just make sure that there is an ATI graphics chip inside (I think they all are, but you have to make sure, since the nvidia support for ppc linux is crap from what I hear, but maybe that has changed since I got my ibook in dec).

Hope that helps.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot :-)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alaterale wrote:
I've heard people say stuff about sleeping, but I don't seem to have much of a problem there.


So you mean you have sleep working? Or do you mean you don't use sleep mode?

I bought a G4 ibook when they first came out, assuming they would be supported by Linux within a few months. It's now a year later and sleep still doesn't work, so I cannot use Linux when I am mobile, and external VGA does not work, so I cannot use Linux when I am plugged in at home either. It's no great loss - Mac OS X is a great operating system - but do not buy a G4 iBook if you intend to run Linux.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toojays wrote:
There have been a bazillion posts about this. iBook G3 is the best. Everything works except for the modem and the microphone.


So, you got the video out working? If yes, I would interesting in knowing how to set that up... :)

modem works with Linuxant binary drivers. Don't know though if all modems or if it works with 2.6.x.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the G4 powerbook, the oldest of them, I was under the impression that these worked as well as the G3 ibook.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

porodzila wrote:
What about the G4 powerbook, the oldest of them, I was under the impression that these worked as well as the G3 ibook.

They do work like a charm. I have a rev. III (Tibook DVI) which is fully supported under Gentoo, except maybe the modem (which used to work with 2.4 kernels using the Conexant drivers but which I have not tested under the newer 2.6 series). I have had the thing for three years and I am very happy with it; I wouldn't change it with an iBook.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruda wrote:
porodzila wrote:
What about the G4 powerbook, the oldest of them, I was under the impression that these worked as well as the G3 ibook.

They do work like a charm. I have a rev. III (Tibook DVI) which is fully supported under Gentoo, except maybe the modem (which used to work with 2.4 kernels using the Conexant drivers but which I have not tested under the newer 2.6 series). I have had the thing for three years and I am very happy with it; I wouldn't change it with an iBook.

Oh :o These mean G4 powerbook work same as G3 ibook?
All G4 powerbook is same? or there is supported G4 powerbook?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

terry wrote:
bruda wrote:
They do work like a charm. I have a rev. III (Tibook DVI) which is fully supported under Gentoo, except maybe the modem (which used to work with 2.4 kernels using the Conexant drivers but which I have not tested under the newer 2.6 series). I have had the thing for three years and I am very happy with it; I wouldn't change it with an iBook.

Oh :o These mean G4 powerbook work same as G3 ibook?
All G4 powerbook is same? or there is supported G4 powerbook?

I believe that newer, Radeon-based powerbooks do feature unsupported bits and pieces. The Nvidia-based ones are widely known to be unsupported as far as acceleration and sleep (probably between others) go. Of course, Airport Extreme is utterly unsupported. The third revision Tibook (first with 1280x854 displays) I know (from my own experience) to be fully supported, I would not venture to claim anything for newer machines.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruda wrote:
The third revision Tibook (first with 1280x854 displays) I know (from my own experience) to be fully supported, I would not venture to claim anything for newer machines.


Oh I see
Thanks a lot
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does video-out work on the TiBooks?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On mine it works, though the thing is bloody sensitive (e.g., the external monitor has to be plugged in upon bootup to obtain an intelligible image on it).
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

toojays wrote:
...Everything works except for the modem and the microphone.
The builtin microphone *does* work.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paoleela wrote:
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...Everything works except for the modem and the microphone.
The builtin microphone *does* work.


Paoleela: You are replying to a thread from 2004. :)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, just for not leaving incorrect propositions laying around. The hardware is from 2001.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
personally i think the topic question depends about the goal you aim for about your personal apple (*)book

my powerbook lombard ppc750-400Mhz has been hacked to run a ppc7410-433Mhz (it's a daystar-USA-kit) it is running gentoo with linux 2.6.12 that is the most updated version supporting everything (the newer than 2.6.12 have a lot of troubles with pcmcia ... and i have no time, no know/how to fix them)

with a zip 100Mb unit, a cdrw, 384Mb of ram and a 20Gb of hard-disk, i successfully run my desk, handling emails, listening to mp3, listening to the radio (vlc webradio), developing about little uC-embedded, running office jobs and backup-doing everything important

so all my university/private jobs are well supported by this unit !

i mean this powerbook is perfect, it makes me able to work for 2..3 no stop hours, to plug a pcmcia-to-uart interface in the cardbus slot and it really works (modern powerbooks have problems about pcmcia, hw problems, and not so good linux support)

the ati mach64 video board is good enough to do frame buffer support, so, in case, i run X11.
Abiword is perfect to type a relation document, Firefox is well running, so i could browse the net very well.


the most important point to mind up is about the cooling: i can assure that with 4330Mhz the powerbook could only warm a bit. well, Adding an extra little air cooler i can have the cpu-die of about 60C with the 95% cpu utilization (let me write wonderful !!! cause with the ppc7410 i have the altivec support that misses the ppc750, and this mean i can speedup mathematical program, such as R, or octave .... it beautifully sounds good for all my jobs ;) )

conclusion:
this machine do all my jobs well, for a long no-stop time and it doesn't hot, it is not so powerfull in computation, but it is not important.

because for everything else, such as watching a film, movie editing, publishing, etc etc
nothing can be better than macOSX running on a modern powerbook-G4, or on a ia32 macbook (pro) dual core.

for these kind of jobs, and for desktop environment applications nothing is better than macOSX
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ddc:

You are replying to a thread and posts started

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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: Which ppc notebook is best for gentoo linux?


This is BEFORE there was kernel goodness and so forth for lots of current iBook and powerbook stuff. And way before Intel Macs.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, but i think we could talk about goodest ppc machine, and the best kernel for them.
(i underlined 2.6.12 is the best one i have ever used)
Also "the best" is related to the goal we aim for ;)
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paoleela wrote:
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...Everything works except for the modem and the microphone.
The builtin microphone *does* work.


Hi Paoleela,

I want to get the microphone running too. I am having an iBook 2.2, G3 500Mhz. What did you do to get the microphone up and running?

Thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a working alsa setup. So the sound output is working. Then set alsamixer, input source to Mic (PageUp). You can try with "Monitor mix" which puts the input to the speakers, pay attention because of feedback !!!
Everything else is about your application.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your quick reply. Does that mean that the microphone showed up after installation of alsa in the alsa mixer? What kernel are you using?

Thanks again for your great help.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.6.19-gentoo-r4
Since the sound hardware does have these lines (output, line, microphone) it shows up in alsamixer. Different chipsets have different mixer controls. I'm not that familar with alsa.
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