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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Anyone here used Vidalinux? Reply with quote

I was curious if anyone here has used Vida Linux (http://desktop.vidalinux.com/). It's basicly a stage three gentoo install wrapped in a Red Hat installer. If you're using portage to keep it updated I think I'd be easy to keep gcc current and hence it'd be easy to intergrate with a distcc network. You could probably get it to use a local rsync server.

I was just wondering what you're opinon of it was.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the biggest reason I don't like it is because it removes the installation process. This means that a lot of people who install it will end up with a system that they're unable to administrate. That's fine for some distributions, but it's not so good for Gentoo.

And of course, they're using the Gentoo infrastructure without permission, and barely even mention Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the biggest reason I don't like it is because it removes the installation process. This means that a lot of people who install it will end up with a system that they're unable to administrate. That's fine for some distributions, but it's not so good for Gentoo.

And of course, they're using the Gentoo infrastructure without permission, and barely even mention Gentoo.
Not to disregard your point, but Gentoo is GPL'd. Therefore they do have permission to use it, change it, and residtribute it as they please so long as they are in compliance of the GPL.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

codergeek42 wrote:
Not to disregard your point, but Gentoo is GPL'd. Therefore they do have permission to use it, change it, and residtribute it as they please so long as they are in compliance of the GPL.

I was mainly referring to the download mirrors, and things like that... It's not my main point anyway, I mostly dislike the installation. :)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave it a shot after one of the many botched gentoo install jobs I did and had trouble with that as well :( I personally didnt think there were enough options during the installation. I cant really tell you what it was like as I really wasnt able to get into the desktop. But from what I did see I would give it about a 4.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, they say it's good for all those who doesn't want to compile.
You install it, get old packages, want to update them and... voila !!! you have to compile after all...
So what's the point with this distro ? :roll:
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basicly they're two types of computers. Computers I own/maintain and computer's other people own but I maintain. Generally for the latter type, I prefer a quick and easy, five minute microwave linux distro. I used to use Mandrake for this purpose. The install was quick and easy, most everything worked right of the bat, but I quickly grew tired of their french dressing and RPM mis-management.

So basicly what I'm looking for is an 35minute gentoo, that installs with a nice pretty GUI, automagically configures things and most importantly, has portage. I was just wondering if vidalinux fit the bill.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not use Debian in that case?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when did debian automagically configure everything and have a nice GUI installer?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Since when did debian automagically configure everything and have a nice GUI installer?
Since Ubuntu. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard good things about Ubuntu but I want to run these computers in a distcc network along with the rest of my Gentoo machines, which sort of makes using Ubuntu difficult but I'll certainly consider it.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though I still use Gentoo on my server I don't really consider myself a Gentoo user any more..
I went:
Gentoo -> Suse -> Gentoo -> Yoper -> Vidalinux -> Gentoo -> Ubuntu...
I've stayed on Ubuntu for quite some time now, and am still pretty happy.. so I may have found my true love.. ;-)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anybody else find the color scheme on Ubuntu's page astoninshingly ugly?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vida Linux, tsk... I've already commented about that in other thread, I don't feel like typing it again.

The Ubuntu installer is, in fact, the Debian installer, not default yet, but it did exist before Ubuntu.

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Does anybody else find the color scheme on Ubuntu's page astoninshingly ugly?

Well, not astonishingly ugly, but amazingly ugly, yes...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tryed it, but it's not nice. after install are often problems with sound. My install didn't liked me and never started again after about 3 boots. so i installed normal gentoo again. (had a new pc and thougt i can save time but so it wasn't...)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

senectus wrote:
Though I still use Gentoo on my server I don't really consider myself a Gentoo user any more..
I went:
Gentoo -> Suse -> Gentoo -> Yoper -> Vidalinux -> Gentoo -> Ubuntu...
I've stayed on Ubuntu for quite some time now, and am still pretty happy.. so I may have found my true love.. ;-)


Yeah, I'm using Gentoo on two development machines and a server, but Ubuntu is on my laptop. For when you don't care about customizing anything, or optimizing anything, but just want a system "that works". Ubuntu is great!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with the general sentement of this thread. I tried Ubuntu breifly, and for all the "install it and forget about it" distro it seems to be the best, I've used. It's got apt-get, gnome2.8 and nice installer. What more could you need?
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