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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:27 am    Post subject: Installed Gentoo on TiBook IV! Reply with quote

I just got Gentoo installed on my TiBook IV 1.0 Ghz...

no problems!!!

I'm used to running Debian, but heard that Gentoo was pretty awesome.

So far, I must say that I have NOT been dissapointed, at all.

The install seemed much smoother than Debian...
but maybe that's just because of all the Linux experience I gained troubleshooting my Debian install :wink:

But nothing has broken, yet - hehe.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure if you've got accelerated X working yet, but if not, here's my xorg.conf:
http://stimuli.ca/linux/files/xorg.conf
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:11 am    Post subject: Yup.. sure do! Reply with quote

Yup - I just got X.org working - installing alsa drivers and the like... seeing if XMMS works, at the moment.

Just out of curiousity - what does the "DynamicClocks" Option do in the device section?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TiBook IV? if you mean iBook G4 1GHz, does sleep work? AE can't i guess...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you run glxgears (is x accelleration working)?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TiBook IV = 1.0 Ghz Titatium Powerbook G4 (as opposed to the aluminum ones).

PowerBook IV is what /proc/cpu info says... it's basicly the Last Titatium Pb Apple made, before switching over to nVidia gfx cards.

And, yes - hardware accel works... glxgears gives me between 1500-2000 fps.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1500-200 fps?! Sweet jesus! I also have an 867mhz TiBook IV w/ radeon 9000 (with half the video memory, with half the potential memory bandwidth) but I get 910 FPS or thereabouts.

Hook me up, man!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my xorg.conf:

Code:


# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"


# This loads the DBE extension module.

    Load        "dbe"     # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection

# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
    Load        "type1"
    Load        "speedo"
    Load        "freetype"
#    Load        "xtt"

# This loads the GLX module
    Load       "glx"
# This loads the DRI module
    Load       "dri"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

    RgbPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
#
#

    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/TrueType/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/freefont/"

# The module search path.  The default path is shown here.

#    ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#    Option "NoTrapSignals"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

#    Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#    Option "DontZap"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#    Option "Dont Zoom"

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

#    Option "DisableVidModeExtension"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client.

#    Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings.

#    Option "DisableModInDev"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

#    Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

    Identifier   "Keyboard1"
    Driver   "Keyboard"

# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.

#    Option     "Protocol"      "Xqueue"

    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#    Option   "Xleds"      "1 2 3"

#    Option "LeftAlt"     "Meta"
#    Option "RightAlt"    "ModeShift"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
# or:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#    Option "XkbOptions"  "ctrl:swapcaps"

# These are the default XKB settings for Xorg
#    Option "XkbRules"    "xorg"
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc101"
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "us"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  ""
#    Option "XkbOptions"  ""

#    Option "XkbDisable"

    Option "XkbRules"   "xorg"
    Option "XkbModel"   "pc101"
    Option "XkbLayout"   "us"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

    Identifier   "usb-explorer"
    Driver   "mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "ExplorerPS/2"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/mouse"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"

# Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse.

#    Option "Resolution"   "256"

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

#    Option "Protocol"   "Xqueue"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.

#    Option "BaudRate"   "9600"
#    Option "SampleRate"   "150"

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

#    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#    Option "Emulate3Timeout"    "50"

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

#    Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Other input device sections
# this is optional and is required only if you
# are using extended input devices.  This is for example only.  Refer
# to the xorg.conf man page for a description of the options.
# **********************************************************************
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier  "Mouse2"
#    Driver      "mouse"
#    Option      "Protocol"      "MouseMan"
#    Option      "Device"        "/dev/mouse2"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball"
#    Driver     "magellan"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball2"
#    Driver     "spaceorb"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen0"
#    Driver     "microtouch"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "1412"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "15184"
#    Option     "MinY"          "15372"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "1230"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen1"
#    Driver     "elo2300"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "231"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "3868"
#    Option     "MinY"          "3858"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "272"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonThreshold"       "17"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "powerbook-lcd"
    VendorName   "Apple"
    ModelName   "Titatium Powerbook IV"
    Mode "1280x854"
   DotClock 79.816
   HTimings 1280 1296 1408 1536
   VTimings 854 855 858 866
   Flags "-HSync" "-VSync"
    EndMode
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
    Identifier   "Standard VGA"
    VendorName   "Unknown"
    BoardName   "Unknown"

# The chipset line is optional in most cases.  It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

#    Chipset   "generic"

# The Driver line must be present.  When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module.  Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.

    Driver     "vga"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for.  When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device.  For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used.  This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.

#    BusID      "PCI:0:10:0"

#    VideoRam   256

#    Clocks   25.2 28.3

EndSection

# Device configured by xorgconfig:

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "ati-radeon-m9"
    VendorName   "ATI Technologies Inc."
    BoardName   "Radeon Mobility M9"
    Driver      "radeon"
    Option   "AGPMode"   "4"
    Option   "EnableDepthMoves"   "true"
    Option   "EnablePageFlip"   "true"
    Option   "NoBackBuffer"      "false"
    Option   "NoAccel"      "false"
    Option   "SWCursor"      "false"
    Option   "UseFBDev"      "true"
    Option   "DCCMode"      "true"
    BusID   "PCI:0:16:0"
    VideoRam    65536
    # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present.  Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen.  A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "ati-radeon-m9"
    Monitor     "powerbook-lcd"
    DefaultDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "1280x854" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1280x854" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "1280x854" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present.  Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised.  A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option.  In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"

# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens.  The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen.  In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.

    Screen "Screen 1"

# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used.  Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".

    InputDevice "usb-explorer" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Group "video"
    Mode 0666
 EndSection


Note: The file was ORIGINALLY generated by the xorg configurator... but I modified it a bunch. (used to debian.... hehe)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, I'm still getting 910 FPS. I guess glxgears is memory bandwidth bound? You have 64MB of VRAM and it is on a 128 bit bus, whereas I have 32 MB on a 64 bit bus.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AUUUGH!!!

I hate segfaults.....

especially since the 'solution', I've found, is just to keep emerging until the build succeeds.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have preemptive kernel enabled? Because I hear it leads to such segfaults on large compiles.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: .... Reply with quote

lol.

Ok.. so now that I've uninstalled Gentoo and went back to OS X.

GAH!

*digs LiveCD out of the garbage*
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll try it w/o the preemtive kernel.

I thought it was a hardware issue (because that's what most of the forum told me), so I did memtester and used the Apple Hardware Test CD, and neither reported any problems.

But I needed to finish a project, and so I quick installed OS X and such.

But there are new LiveCDs for PPC, right? (2004.3)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you get alsa working ? I have the same powerbook and I just can't get alsa sound to work 100 % :cry:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

elaborate.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everytime after start up I first had to do "/etc/init.d/alsasound restart" before I got some sound, not running X at this stage. I use mp3blaster to play music.
If I start up KDE the volume is very soft, I checked the KDE soundsystem config but I can not even select alsa there :-(
I had all the modules running, i2c and dmasound_pmac

When re installing osX I erased my linux partition (confused my partitioning scheme with the one on my desktop :evil: )
I am planning on installing Gentoo again later this week or so, so if there is anything special that I should keep in mind (besides whats written in the handbook) when installing please let me know.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the market for a laptop and I've been considering a tibook as well. I'm suprised there are so few configuration problems. Does wifi and bluetooth work? How about all the USB and firewire ports? How does gentoo fare on the PPC? Is there less software you can use etc?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:13 am    Post subject: Errmm.. Reply with quote

Honestly, I think I'm going to stick with OS X for awhile.

Alsa sound DID work, just not with XMMS.

I'm staying with OS X mostly because it's more "stable", and easier to maintain... and everything is supported.... and I can run all the programs I need to (including those GNU progs I love).

And because I need this compy for school :wink:

Gentoo was cool, while it lasted. Extremely snappy... but I still enjoy the look/feel of OS X.

I'll never be able to go back to windows, though (can't STAND it!), so Gentoo is most likely in my future... and the next PC I purchase will probably not be an Apple - I enjoy the OS and the hardware, but nobody programs or optimizes programs for the PowerPC.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:42 am    Post subject: DANGIT!!! Reply with quote

So.. it's thanksgiving weekend...

And I will be re-installing Gentoo... once again.

This time w/o the preemptive kernel.

Schweet.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an ATI radeon 9200 mobility in an Apple iBook 12", and I get 1700FPS with glgear ( I have dri enabled).

I can't get VGA OUT working, can you help me?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JDCentral/anyone familiar:

i could use a hand with this install. i am attempting on the same machine as you. could you take a look at my post today's the day?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what does your make.conf file look like for your powerbook iv?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Errm... I don't remember what it WAS, but after I finish installing Gentoo, I'll post it.
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JDCentral
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 06 Nov 2004
Posts: 112
Location: Fort Collins, CO

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:52 am    Post subject: preempt off=amazing! Reply with quote

removing pre-empt from the kernel has (thus far) solved all my problems (and cleared up a few other 'issues',as well. So I'm back on the Gentoo scene, once again.... now to find myself a good penguin background...
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2x120GB Seagate 7200.1 IDE Drives
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nss
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Joined: 04 Oct 2004
Posts: 389

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this post feels like my only hope to get gentoo running since JD is using the same exact machine as me. the last few times i've tried to install gentoo, i get through all the steps in the handbook and reboot my machine. i get a message something along the lines of ... corrupt filesystem or improper filesystem or something... then the next line reads something like.... please enter root passwd for maintenance or press Ctrl-D for normal startup. i've tried both... something is obviously wrong. i think something might be wrong with my fstab. what does yours look like? an error i always reach during the install occurs when i try to automatically configure yaboot using yabootconfig. it says that it is unable to locate the kernel image please specify its location. this actually ends up being an infinite loop i.e. the message just repeats itself over and over again and i have to force my machine to shutdown. so the last few times i've manually configured yaboot. any ideas as to what is going wrong with my install. i really try to follow the directions exactly. oh... one part where i am unable to follow the directions exactly is when i do menuconfig... sometimes the options listed in the handbook are different or are not present on the actual program... for example the directions say to disable ADB raw keycodes... this option is not present but there are afew things that deal with ADB (just not keycodes)... ????????????
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