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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:45 am    Post subject: Any progress with games for PPC? Reply with quote

I have an ibook and I want to install Gentoo on it now.

The last time I saw this discussed was almost two years ago, so I thought there might have been some changes since then:

Is there still no way to play Neverwinter Nights on PPC? It's the only game I play these days. I remember that before, the problem was that the installer required wine and wine won't run on ppc Linux.

But Ravage's installer doesn't require wine, so can't that be compiled for ppc somehow? Or is there an ebuild that'll let you just emerge it yet? And then copy the important files off the disc or from a Windows partition?

How about UT2004, or Doom3? Any love from portage there?

Sorry, I'm very new to ppc linux, been a x86er my whole life ;)

It's a pity we'll never be able to have a cedega for ppc... since the games binaries are x86 compiled. Anyway, who knows. One day...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

err. yes.. that is the problem.. most game developers dont even see a market for linux x86. id software fortunately does.. and some other games oo. but doom3 wont even have x86-64 versions.. so how likely will be a ppc or ppc64 version for linux? almost zero i fear. i am afraid all you can do is wait until the sourceode gets released and some open source project will make it available for you :(
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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err. yes.. that is the problem.. most game developers dont even see a market for linux x86. id software fortunately does.. and some other games oo. but doom3 wont even have x86-64 versions.. so how likely will be a ppc or ppc64 version for linux? almost zero i fear. i am afraid all you can do is wait until the sourceode gets released and some open source project will make it available for you :(

Cool, so all I have to do is wait fifteen years?

I get what you're saying, but some games have open-source installers and Linux binaries, so it makes sense that someone could just redo them for PPC?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the installers.. yes.. but whats the point in installing a game that wont run?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, it make sense to be portable.

if games should, for some reasons, run also on OSX.

if a game runs on linux, and osx, it should be 'easy' to make it avaible for linux-ppc.
if it runs on osx using things like sdl, openGL and so on, it should be "relativly simple" to port to linuxppc.

if someone is proud of a commone code-base (for example Novell/SuSE, SuSE stated that they have one codebase for all, but they are not able to build a linuxppc version for public, yes, its not a game company, but a software company...) and are not able to port them, specially if the have a linux and an osx port, don't trust them.
The same for nVidia (and other), they support osx, but not linux on the ppc.
Well, it means, as there is no offer, don't buy things from them.

you don't have to wait another 15years, use OSX for games. Its a nice OS for games ;-)
otherwise, for work, use linux.

The Situation will not improve as long as ppc (for endusers) have a marketshare around 1.5%.
But if you don't want to use intel/AMD based systems with *Windows*. wait for the Sony PS/3, it comes with the cell (-powerpc).
And possibly. if wll be linux based...

cheers frank
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an aside, there are lots of games available for ppc that are quite good that aren't big name games. If you haven't already, try tomatoes (It's masked ~ppc), I just ported it to SDL_mixer so we can enjoy this great game on arches besides x86. It's quite addictive. :)

A few more of my favorite, sometimes overlooked games are:
blobwars - Action game
fish-fillets - Great puzzle game
frozen-bubble - Like bubble bobble / snood
koules - Action game with bouncing balls (hard to describe)
kobodeluxe - Space shooter
uqm - Great all around game, has strategy, story and action elements.

There are lots more, look through the games categories and try a few, you might find something new you like instead of the big name titles.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoseJX wrote:
As an aside, there are lots of games available for ppc that are quite good that aren't big name games. If you haven't already, try tomatoes (It's masked ~ppc), I just ported it to SDL_mixer so we can enjoy this great game on arches besides x86. It's quite addictive. :)

A few more of my favorite, sometimes overlooked games are:
blobwars - Action game
fish-fillets - Great puzzle game
frozen-bubble - Like bubble bobble / snood
koules - Action game with bouncing balls (hard to describe)
kobodeluxe - Space shooter
uqm - Great all around game, has strategy, story and action elements.

There are lots more, look through the games categories and try a few, you might find something new you like instead of the big name titles.

Cool, and thank you for all the work you do for us! You guys rock.

I am familiar with most of those games though, haven't tried tomatoes yet, I'll check it out.

Sometimes you just want to play a big game that pushes your hardware , looks sweet and keeps you busy for ages.

Cube is another great open-source FPS, which is apparently on PPC Linux as well.

Anyway, I haven't installed Gentoo on my ibook yet. I love OSX and it's good for most things, but it's got more to do with familiarity. Linux and Gnome feel like home (@ /home) to me, because that's all I've used for the last four years. I'll probably do a dual-booting effort (I don't like dual booting, my computers at home are all Linux only boxes) but I'd like to keep OSX around as well.

I read an article recently that said Linux on PPC is growing at an astounding rate. People love Apple's hardware, their sales are up and the Linux world love nothing more than running their favourite OS on top hardare. The G processors are great. So hopefully we'll see more Linux PPC games in the near future.
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