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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:46 am    Post subject: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS: arch OR ~arch Reply with quote

Hi Everyone,

When I first installed my notebook 9 months ago, I used ~x86. I seemed to work fine... Around Christmas I downgraded to x86, 'cause I had some problems with the stability of the system. In time I added some (20-30) packages to packages.keywords in order to use the newer versions. The system works fine now, and I recently found out, that the instability was caused by using unstable and risky CFLAGS...

In meantime I installed Gentoo on my desktop using ~x86 with normal CFLAGS and had so far no problems. I am now thinking about upgrading to ~x86 on my notebook again. As my notebook is my day to day working machine, and I don't want to trash it once more (I did it on several occasions), I am seeking advice.

Do you used STABLE or INSTABLE? arch or ~arch?
How many, if any, packages are in packages.keywords?
Developers:Can I expect to get support if I run into troubles? Or how do I join the testing crew?
I'd like to be on (bleeding) edge. What are the trade offs?

TiA and Greets
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have been using ~x86 on a Dell Inspiron 5150 for day-to-day work, and no major hassles for almost a year now.. My desktop has also on ~x86 since it was installed sometime in 2002... New mac desktop running ~ppc64.. only switched recently from ppc64 on that one.. no majors so far...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im always on ~x86.
As far as expecting support goes, you should. The whole point of the ~arch tree is to test packages for bugs. Theyre considered to work, but not to be bugfree. So you will get support in the sense that if you report bugs, youll get them looked at and so on. But you wont get support if you complain your system isnt stable, and many apps have bugs in them :P
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So you will get support in the sense that if you report bugs, youll get them looked at and so on. But you wont get support if you complain your system isnt stable, and many apps have bugs in them
I guess I have to start using bugzilla... Can't be that difficult

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use ~x86 for a while without problem.

I am currently going to x86 for most packages, being on ~arch gives too many updates :)

You can always mask a non-working package:
echo "=CAT/PKG-VERSION" >> /etc/portage/package.mask
if one does not work well.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also specify that you want to use the arch version of it, by setting
Code:
category/package -~x86
in your /etc/portage/package.keywords
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

~x86 with a few hardmasked packages (such as the Vim 7 alphas) and no major unfixable problems yet...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject: Lame question on emerging masked packages Reply with quote

Hi,

I am trying to emerge some masked package, say, x11-misc/xtermcontrol-2.4

to do this, I put a line in /etc/portage/package.keywords

~x11-misc/xtermcontrol-2.4 ~amd64

But when I then type

emerge xtermcontrol or xtermcontrol-2.4 etc.

I get,

!!! Problem in x11-misc/xtermcontrol-2.4 dependencies.
!!! "Specific key requires an operator (x11-misc/xtermcontrol-2.4) (try adding an '=')" exceptions

Im trying to get it working for an hour now. Whats wrong?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "~" matches any revision of that package, which might not be what you want.
It will match 2.4-r0, 2.4-r1, 2.4-r2 and so on.
And if you type
Code:
emerge xtermcontrol-2.4
you need to add the = in front,
Code:
emerge =xtermcontrol-2.4
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
emerge xtermcontrol or xtermcontrol-2.4 etc.

I get,

!!! Problem in x11-misc/xtermcontrol-2.4 dependencies.
!!! "Specific key requires an operator (x11-misc/xtermcontrol-2.4) (try adding an '=')" exceptions

Im trying to get it working for an hour now. Whats wrong?

first: if you emerge a package with version, use e.g.
Code:
# emerge =xtermcontrol-2.4
the diffence is the '=' before the package
second: xtermcontrol is not available for amd64, so you cannot emerge it directly!
You probably could do a workaround by creating your own build, but I advise against it... Gentoo Devs will know why they do exclude amd64

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved to dups in favour of https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-225085.html and https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-186638.html
Searching will reveal some others.
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