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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:23 am    Post subject: Beware Aluminium Powerbook to-be users !! Reply with quote

Hi all !

I have not seen any posts on the matter of the new Aluminuim Powerbooks. I recently bought one (actually, I ordered the former AlBook, but Apple upgraded the computer without giving me a choice in the matter).

The new Albooks have undergone some hardware changes : the trackpad is no longer ADB, it is now USB, which would not be a big deal if it was actually working with the HID drivers, which it is NOT !.


So, the bad news is no trackpad for the moment, the good news being that some people are looking into it (namely, the kernel's input layer maintainer)

Second, it seems that the PCMCIA interface has been changed too. None of my PCMCIA hardware works on the new AlBook...

So, I would advise against buying an AlBook for the moment, if you want a Linux only computer, that is.

You can tell the difference between new and old Albooks, by checking the /proc/cpuinfo. If it shows Powerbook5,6 it is a new AlBook. If it shows Powerbook5,4 , you are in the green.

I hope this is of use to some of you !

Regards,

Jonathan

[EDIT] I changed the title, because I thought it was too generic.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, things are moving (actually quite fast), here are the news :

What does not work :
- Trackpad,
- Cpufreq,
- Sound,
(All of the above information was verified)
- PCMCIA (Not verified, does not work for me, but maybe I am doing something wrong, although I do not think so).

What has been patched :
- Cpufreq,

I would advise anyone in my situation (ie with a non working powerbook), to subscribe to the debian-powerpc mailing list. That is wher most of the action is.

Incidentally, it has been reported that the trackpad actually works, but only by one person, so that I would not put much faith in that (The guy said it worked right out-of-the-box, and did not give anymore details).


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Beware Aluminium Powerbook to-be users !! Reply with quote

Hi, (sorry my english)

I have problems with...

* Sound: with alsa all the programs works ok, but the sound is muted!!! With the alsamixer unmute the channels but no have sound.Amarok, aplay, xmms play the archive but the sound is muted.

*CPU Freq
*Trackpad
*Keyboard (dont work all the keys)
*Bluetooth: USB Fritz module, but the hciconfig dont work...

linuxG4 maestrea # hciconfig hci0 up
Can't get device info: No such device

Any solution?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so you have no working mouse with the new Powerbook's? that's a showstopper for me indeed. maybe i should just stick with a Thinkpad.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't think it as a showstopper since it will be eventually fixed most likely and since AirPort Extreme doesn't work even on old PowerBooks you're probably not going to be using it on the road, so you can plug in a USB mouse.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news everyone !!

So, I got an e-mail from B. Herenschmidt, who is in charge of the kernel ppc developpement. He told me that the new hardware was pretty simple to support, and that they just needed to get their hands on the machine, which they have ordered. I think, we just need to wait for apple to deliver the new laptop to them.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radhek wrote:
Good news everyone !!

So, I got an e-mail from B. Herenschmidt, who is in charge of the kernel ppc developpement. He told me that the new hardware was pretty simple to support, and that they just needed to get their hands on the machine, which they have ordered. I think, we just need to wait for apple to deliver the new laptop to them.

Jonathan


Well that's a pretty good news indeed !!! :)

Did they say anything about the airport extreme card or it will only be the basic stuff ?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I was away for a while. Here are fresh news :

- There is a problem with CPUFREQ on the new albooks (at boot, the kernel only detects half the speed of the CPU, so, the computer runs half-speed, which is a shame...). This has been settled, a patch is out. I hope it will be included in the kernel or gentoo kernel quickly !!

- For the rest, they still haven't got their hnds on the new machine (from what I hear), so, we're waiting !!

- Kyoshen : About Airport Extreme, no news there, the chipset is still undocumented... I have heard, however, that there is a project to support it. I think they have built a module. the module insmods, but does not do anything more at the time. Again, let's wait...

I'll keep you posted (unless it is made clear t me that thgis thread is useless :blink: )

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radhek wrote:


>> PCMCIA (Not verified, does not work for me, but maybe I am doing something wrong, although I do not think so).



The PCMCIA works ok with the Yenta module:

Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0001:10:13.0 [0000:0000]
Yenta: Enabling burst memory read transactions
Yenta: Using CSCINT to route CSC interrupts to PCI
Yenta: Routing CardBus interrupts to PCI
Yenta TI: socket 0001:10:13.0, mfunc 0x00001002, devctl 0x60
Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0000, PCI irq 53

My pcmcia wireless card (prism54 chipset) is running.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radhek wrote:
Sorry, I was away for a while. Here are fresh news :

- There is a problem with CPUFREQ on the new albooks (at boot, the kernel only detects half the speed of the CPU, so, the computer runs half-speed, which is a shame...). This has been settled, a patch is out. I hope it will be included in the kernel or gentoo kernel quickly !!

- For the rest, they still haven't got their hnds on the new machine (from what I hear), so, we're waiting !!

- Kyoshen : About Airport Extreme, no news there, the chipset is still undocumented... I have heard, however, that there is a project to support it. I think they have built a module. the module insmods, but does not do anything more at the time. Again, let's wait...

I'll keep you posted (unless it is made clear t me that thgis thread is useless :blink: )

-- Jonathan


Just a quick note it's Kioshen not Kyoshen ;) No biggie.

Thx for the updates. AFAIK, they are working on the broadcom chipset right now even though the sourceforge project seems dead. One the gentoo devs is currently on it. I can't remember his name but I've seen it in the forums recently but he assured us that there is activity on the driver at the very least !

These are the situations were I want to be a programmer instead of a sysadmin to at least get my hands dirty and help out ;).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news everyone !

Well, in fact, just news... Johannes Berg has managed to get the trackpad working. However, as he says, the code is kind of ugly right now, since it consists of userspace python code that emulates X events, accompanied by a set of kernel patches. However, for those interested, here is the link :
http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/PowerBook/touchpad

So, there is hope !!

By the way, if anyone has got anything working on the PCMCIA slot, please let me know !!

Thanks Johannes !!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radhek wrote:
Good news everyone !

By the way, if anyone has got anything working on the PCMCIA slot, please let me know !!


My pcmcia wireless card work fine!!! Read the post in this forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Trackpad driver building for Gentoo from Debian package Reply with quote

Radhek wrote:

Well, in fact, just news... Johannes Berg has managed to get the trackpad working. However, as he says, the code is kind of ugly right now, since it consists of userspace python code that emulates X events, accompanied by a set of kernel patches. However, for those interested, here is the link :
http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/PowerBook/touchpad


His driver and program are available off that URL above. They are Debian packages but here's what I did to get it to work under Gentoo, in case people aren't aware of this (unless I'm not aware of a way of building these packages under Gentoo with one command):

Download each of the tar.gz files you can find in the tla archive on his driver page (there is one base and 6 patches at the current time), and unpackage them in a temporary directory. Then do the following:

Code:
cd appletrackpad--devo--1--base-0
cp ../appletrackpad--devo--1--patch-5.patches/new-files-archive/driver.c .
find .. -name "*.patch" -exec patch -p1 -i {} \;
make


Then you should be able to

Code:
insmod \=build/appletrackpad.ko
./\=build/driver


and cross your fingers.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, as Johannes Berg says on his page, the driver is in his tla archive, so you would have to use tla in order to get and patch the source, then a simple make should do it.

Code:

emerge tla
tla register-archive http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/archives/johannes@sipsolutions.net--2005-public
tla get johannes@sipsolutions.net--2005-public/appletrackpad--devo--1


Incidentally, he managed to get the fn key working (thje problem being that the key generates a ENV_ABS envent instead of an ENV_KEY envent, so that showkey cannot grab the keypress).
Here's where you can find what to do to make it work :
http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/PowerBook/special_buttons

Again, I would like to thank Johannes for his fast work on this, since I am incapable of coding a single byte :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any progress on the problems discussed here?

I'm about to order a 12" PB and would like to know what trouble I will run in...
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