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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:03 am    Post subject: Which mac laptop is best for Gentoo? Reply with quote

I'm currently a computer science student and work as a sys admin/programmer/quality assurance guy for a memory company in Irvine. I want to get a laptop to be able to do some light website design, just basic php stuff for the most part, word processing for lectures, and java/c++ coding. I'm really comfortable with linux and need a laptop. I've decided to go with a mac laptop and want to instal gentoo even though I'm more of a slackware/damn small linux kind of guy myself. Which mac laptop would you say through you're experiances would be best situated for what I want to do and work better with gentoo? Any information you could provide me with would be much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest getting a used Ibook. They can be pretty cheap, but aren't too slow to do what you want. I don't suggest using a Powerbook 520, because it is really hard to get Gentoo runnning on one of those.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So then would you say that the g4 ibook 12" would be a good bet?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got a G3 iBook on ebay for pretty cheap. It's not exactly a gaming system but it'll do well for my development stuff. The install was super easy except to figure out what driver to use for my ethernet card. Mac OS X is pretty sweet too (but doesn't come preloaded with all the nice development tools), if you get your hands on the cd you can do dual boot or run Mac on Linux which is probably pretty cool.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will most deffinitly do a dual boot of os X. The company I work for has a developer subscription with apple so I have my hot little hands on a pre release copy of 10.4. I'd gladley share it but if you read about the college student getting totally owned for sharing his copy on slashdot you'll understand why I can't. http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/05/03/24/1354212.shtml?tid=123&tid=3
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you consider a powerbook keep in mind the cases are metal, which if you are familair with the faraday cage this will decreace wireless performance.. the new 12" ibooks are amazing, long battery life, amazingly light, and so small! my friend bought one, his only complaint is how scratched it is, but hes not one to look after other peoples property, let alone his own..
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thanks for the guidance guys, I appreciate it...can't wait till my next paycheck to score one.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

remember to buy an *book, that has a radeon card and NOT a nvidia! I own a 12" powerbook and is is GREAT, except the video card. it's a nvidia and due to this there is no support for sleep and the composite extension won't work realy great, too.
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also remember that new ibooks and powerbooks have Airport Extreme.. which is NOT compatible with linux yet.
If u are working with PHP and some webdesign i would suggest to try out Mac OS X..
there are wonderfull apps that work with PHP, and everything u can need..
But if u really want to go with linux then i would suggest an iBook g4 12" which has a compatible ATI graphics, so u can also use 3d accelleration and sleep stuff... but no Airport yet.
hey btw remember that Mac OS X can run most of the Linux apps with X11 built in.
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My needs happen to match what the OP has: Java / C coding, web surfing, and not much more.

I found this at my local Apple store:

12-inch iBook 1.2ghz
S$ 1,681.05

  • 1.2GHz PowerPC G4
  • 512K L2 cache @ 1.2GHz
  • 12-inch TFT Display
  • 1024x768 resolution
  • 256MB DDR266 SDRAM
  • 30GB Ultra ATA drive
  • Combo Drive
  • ATI Mobility Radeon 9200
  • 32MB DDR video memory
  • AirPort Extreme built-in

Anyone can tell me if this would make a good Gentoo machine as well? Would the 256 MB RAM be too low? (It is low for x86 systems. :roll:)

I'm tired of working on x86 and would like a change of architecture for a challenge. :P

P.S. I like the idea of educational discounts, since I'm a university student. Yay! :D
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The general consensus among Mac OS X users is that you really want 512MB as a minimum. 256 will work, but 512 is better. I'm not sure how Linux will handle, but it will probably be decent -- my PPC Gentoo machine has 96MB.
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old Linux PowerMac has 64MB of RAM and runs superbly, but if you want to run OSX 320MB is the bare usable minimum. (I've used enough OSX machines with 256MB to be sick of them.)
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I didn't take the time to read this thread (cause it is 5:00pm on friday :D :D :D ) but I bought an ibook g4 12" a couple weeks ago and the gentoo install went very smoothly. I am working on tracking down a usb-wifi solution until airport extreme works, but everything else has been great!!!!! killer battery life btw.
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uglyman wrote:
killer battery life btw.

How long is the battery life under gentoo and macos respectively? Is there any significant difference?
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can't really say the battery life under macos since I dont use it... but the life under gentoo seems similar to the claims people make about the osX battery life.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... with 1 GB of ram, gentoo has never TOUCHED my swap partition.

Ever.

But OS X gobbles it up pretty quick.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JDCentral wrote:
Well... with 1 GB of ram, gentoo has never TOUCHED my swap partition.

Ever.

But OS X gobbles it up pretty quick.

Same here with 768MB.

Maybe I should just use my swap partition to hold more pr0n.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can run linux on less than 64 mbs of ram, you dont need much ram, you can run any linux well with 128mbs of ram, but of course the more the better. the battery life shouldnt see any difference btwen the two OS, i believe, im not a ppc guy so i may very well be wrong.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 12" iBook G4's will do fine, but slap in some extra money to get a wireless usb adapter. I got a D-Link DWL-122 myself (only usb wireless dongle I could find with PrismII chipset at the nearest retailers), but there are probably some other dongles that work on linux/ppc as well.
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