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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: PPC-newbie, Mac Mini + Gentoo Linux Reply with quote

I'm planning to install Gentoo on my Mac Mini. I have never used Linux on Apple-hardware before (apart from testing few Ubuntu Live-CD's on this machine). And I have few questions related to the whole process:

1. I know that I have to give up few things (like native Flash-support and the like). But how about sound (AFAIK, Mini is not yet fully supported)? Video-codecs? Does sleep work?

2. Mac-On-Linux (MOL): How exactly does it work? I now have 40Gb HD and OS X fills it entirely. Can I remove everything, install Linux on it and then install OS X inside MOL in that Linux (MOL documentation wasn't really clear on this)? How would the MOL-installation be handled?

3: MOL part 2: Is it really 1:1 functional OS X? All OS X apps work with MOL? If it's fully functional, why should I condsider dual-booting? Better performance?

4: MOL Part 3: How can I interact between MOL and Linux? Meaning: what would be the best way to share files between the two for example? A separate partition that is not mounted by default?

5. How fast does G4 compile when compared to x86-hardware?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) No loss for me, as most of the flash I come across are avderts!

2) Yes, exactly, or you can dual boot and run the OSX partition from within Linux

3) Software, yes, hardware, not 100% convinced ... docs say usb is supported, but haven't got things sorted out myself yet. It mabe to to with udev though, so I'm swapping back to devfs for now, to see if I can get devices to work better.

4) I understand a share fat32 partition is possible (from debian mac mini howto) but I use ssh to transfer files atm.

5) Slow compared to the dual opterons :wink: but not bad, does the job. Very cool and quiet. Definately useable with OSX running inside MOL with waimea. Not sure I'd want kde or gnome running though 8O
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all: thank you for your replies :)

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2) Yes, exactly, or you can dual boot and run the OSX partition from within Linux


So I can safely erase everything on the HD, install Linux on the entire HD, and the install OSX inside MOL/Linux? Would I need to have an empty HFS+-paartition in my Linux-install to install OS X in? I'm sorry if I'm repeating the question here, but I need to be absolutely sure before I erase the HD :).

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3) Software, yes, hardware, not 100% convinced ... docs say usb is supported, but haven't got things sorted out myself yet. It mabe to to with udev though, so I'm swapping back to devfs for now, to see if I can get devices to work better.


Well, I would use USB keyboard/mouse, should I expect problems? Udev doesn't work that well? Only external device I would be using (at some point) would be external Firewire-HD.

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5) Slow compared to the dual opterons :wink: but not bad, does the job. Very cool and quiet. Definately useable with OSX running inside MOL with waimea. Not sure I'd want kde or gnome running though 8O


I actually tested KDE 3.4 through the Kubuntu Live-CD, and it seemed to work very very well. A bit faster than OS X it seemed :). I think 1.25GHz is enough for KDE, and 512MB should be enough for now (I will upgrade to 1GB in the near future)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2) Yes, you can safely erase the HD and install gentoo as normal. Then install MOL, which builds some kernels modules (which appears like how vmware does things) and then reboot. You then create a blank HD for use with Mol. Its like pearpc (as I think pearpc took the method from MOL). Look here -> http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/idesetup.html
Then in your MOL disk config, you tell it your disk is the one you created, eg macosx10-3.img, then follow the MOL docs to install osx onto that image file. Its like vmware, so you can have multiple image files sat on a linux disk, which contain various versions of OSX.

OR like vmware you can run gentoo and use a physical partition to put OSX on, and have OSX in a window on linux.

3) USB keyboard/mouse will be fine, as would an ecternal usb HD ... not sure about a Firewire-HD.

ps I think its just a matter of time before ALSA sounds works from gentoo too...


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to actually have OSX insalled on a partition. This way you can still boot to it along with running it in MOL. I do it incase I find something that doesn't work exactly right, or have a game I want to play.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For clarification, my DVDR now works fine with MOL.

It was a general udev problem.

Getting more and more impressed with MOL as I use it!
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