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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:46 pm    Post subject: grub or lilo? Reply with quote

what one do i want to do?

i am going for somthing easy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grub is a little non intutive but it's easy once you get to understand it
lilo is much more straightforward
but still, i would recommend grub

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going for something easy and don't need extra eyecandy when choosing kernel and/or os, your choice would be lilo. Lilo is also "easier" to configure
Hope that helped a bit
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Massaker,

Grub is a little more difficult to set up than lilo but is lower maintainance.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go with grub, in the end youll appreciate your bootloader more.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol doesnt really matter, they both do the same thing, just whether or not you want:

Grub:
Eyecandy
More difficult

Lilo:
Text mode
Simple updates

make && make modules_install && make install - i think thats all you have to do
then run
/sbin/lilo

bam..instant kernel upgrade

personall i use grub, but you might as well use lilo because how often are you going to restart anyway...:D
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The consensus seems to be that the more hands on you want to be with your system the more you should lean toward GRUB.

I used LILO once - with Lindows, of all things. It was OK, but I prefer GRUB.

With Fedora Core I used GRUB, and was glad I did, when I made my system triple boot with FC 2, Winders and Gentoo (my first time with Gentoo). if something farked I'd boot into FC and be able to mount my Gentoo partitions / drives and see what was going on, *in addition* to having a good pre-defined grub.conf to look at to build my new GRUB (FC2 was using an older version of GRUB as well at the time)....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always found grub to be much easier to use than my experiences with lilo. For one thing, you can edit your config file, and it Just Works. You don't have to reinstall it to the boot sector, since it's capable of reading it's config file off the disk. And the gentoo install scripts do a VERY good job of showing how to use grub as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The weirdest thing about grub is the way it numbers extended partitions (and that's not exactly well-documented). Still, I like it better than lilo and it has never given me any problems
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for grub. In the beginning it is maybe hard to set it up, but when you know it just works easier than lilo.



PS: And grub looks better.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why everyone is saying grub is any more difficult to set up than lilo. It's not. Both require you to edit a file and both contain nearly the same information.

While grub has one or 2 addtional steps over lilo after a kernel upgrade, it's really not that difficult.

It all boils down to.. do you want eye candy or not?

Grub == eye candy
Lilo != eye candy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps I didn't configure or use it correctly when I first tried it, but one thing I like about Grub that I could not find in LiLo is that if I need to I can directly edit the boot options at boot time.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

codergeek42 wrote:
Perhaps I didn't configure or use it correctly when I first tried it, but one thing I like about Grub that I could not find in LiLo is that if I need to I can directly edit the boot options at boot time.


I forgot to mention it in my previous post, but this one of the things I use GRUB. It saved me some time when I made a mistake in the kernel filename. Because of this I didn't have to reboot with the livecd.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would personally go for GRUB.
not just for the eyecandy but for the fault-tolerance

Everytime you install a new kernel with lilo you have to edit the config and then re-run lilo to re-write the MBR

With GRUB when you install a new kernel all you have to do is edit the config file.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib wrote:
I would personally go for GRUB.
not just for the eyecandy but for the fault-tolerance

Everytime you install a new kernel with lilo you have to edit the config and then re-run lilo to re-write the MBR

With GRUB when you install a new kernel all you have to do is edit the config file.


its true! and its really easy to use! :)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yea. I forgot about the MBR thing.. I use grub. It's nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved to Duplicate Threads in favor of https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-322120-highlight-grub+lilo.html
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