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kramerkeller
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:53 pm    Post subject: Gentoo - as a server Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I am ultra-newb to linux. I have doen some debian and fedora, but pretty newbish. I have programmed and done a great deal with windows software, but I think it is time to make the switch and so far I am loving it.

SERVER - Is gentoo good as a server, or is that a whole different thing when it comes to remote access and all that sort of thing? I am only installing gentoo now gettingthrough stage 2 fine, but I really want to makea server with an old comp and multiple hard drives. At some point in the far future a beowulf cluster would be my dream, but I know I am far from it. Any hints tips or tricks would be great. Otherwise I'll just install gentoo as is and go from there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SERVER - Is gentoo good as a server.
It is a matter of personal preference. updates are easy with portage, which is good & all of the mainstream free apps that people want are in the tree. USE flags work well to keep X and other things out of the system & also to ensure everything has pam, kerberos, or whatever other requirements you have.

It isn't commercially supported & other distros may have more webapps in their source trees. Also, some don't like the idea of having a compiler on a server.

Linux is Linux, though. You can get the same kind of server from gentoo as you can with other distros and vice versa.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't see why you couldn't run gentoo on a server, as karnesky said you can keep X and stuff off the system. emerge to handle updates.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because of the ease of which one can remove any un-necessary daemons/services, and only have running what's supposed to be running, Gentoo works fine for me as a web/database server. FreeBSD would probably be more stable, but I like Gentoo's runlevel system a little better.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Gentoo - as a server Reply with quote

kramerkeller wrote:
SERVER - Is gentoo good as a server

Not as good as other distributions. RHEL and Debian Stable have a strict policy of only allowing critical updates (e.g. security fixes) into the tree, and even those have to be backported to the older releases of the software (whatever was included in the distribution at the time of release). Conversely, Gentoo frequently updates to the latest upstream version, which will contain not only the fix which prompted the update (assuming there even was one, as opposed to a newer version just happening to be declared stable) but many other unrelated changes as well.

GLEP 19 might someday bring Gentoo up to par in this area, but it's still only vapourware right now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am using Gentoo as a server at home. I have it set up as a WEB/FTP/Mail server. I have it as a stable x86, and not the ~x86. I think for just a home server it is fine. Now, if you are looking for a work server, that is a differnt thing. There are people that say that it is fine, and others that say that they wouldn't use it. It's up to you in that case.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to check a few of these threads. Gentoo as a server has been discussed quite vehemently without quite dipping into a flame war. Both side of the argument have some good points.

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-346955.html
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-263236.html
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-219621.html
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-268728.html

IMO the answer is, it depends on what you're doing and what you want.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kashani wrote:
You might want to check a few of these threads. Gentoo as a server has been discussed quite vehemently without quite dipping into a flame war. Both side of the argument have some good points.

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-346955.html
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-263236.html
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-219621.html
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-268728.html

IMO the answer is, it depends on what you're doing and what you want.

kashani


Follow-ups to one of these.
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