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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:53 am    Post subject: kdm being blocked Reply with quote

I have KDE 3.4 installed and I wanted to emerge kdm and I'm getting blocked, how can I resolve this?

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These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/khotkeys-3.4.1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdesu-3.4.1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-data-3.4.1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kcminit-3.4.1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/khelpcenter-3.4.1-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kcontrol-3.4.1-r1)
[blocks B     ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdm-3.4.1)
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/khotkeys-3.4.1
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kdesu-3.4.1
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kdebase-data-3.4.1
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kcminit-3.4.1
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/khelpcenter-3.4.1-r1
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kcontrol-3.4.1-r1
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kdm-3.4.1


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unmerge kdebase:
Code:
emerge -C kdebase


And emerge kdm (a split ebuild):
Code:
emerge kdm
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx! that worked and I can start the kdm by executing
Code:
/usr/share/kde/3.4/bin/kdm
and I tried to link /etc/init.d/kdm to that but ofcourse it didn't work, is there an init script out there or somewhere?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quickstrike wrote:
Thx! that worked and I can start the kdm by executing
Code:
/usr/share/kde/3.4/bin/kdm
and I tried to link /etc/init.d/kdm to that but ofcourse it didn't work, is there an init script out there or somewhere?

What you want is to edit /etc/rc.conf and set DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm" and then add xdm to the default runlevel.
Code:
rc-update add xdm default

That is xdm, not kdm, it will pick the right one from the config file you edited.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great, that worked and now my .xinitrc is not working because the emerge -C kdebase removed the startkde script. What do you put in there to startkde?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quickstrike wrote:
Great, that worked and now my .xinitrc is not working because the emerge -C kdebase removed the startkde script. What do you put in there to startkde?

Code:
emerge kdebase-startkde

and your startkde program will reappear.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx, i'm back up and running with login screen and startkde is working again however :( now my bottom and top panels are missing, did I do something wrong here, I don't remember doing anything to get rid of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quickstrike wrote:
thx, i'm back up and running with login screen and startkde is working again however :( now my bottom and top panels are missing, did I do something wrong here, I don't remember doing anything to get rid of them.

Is kicker emerged?
Code:
emerge kdebase-kicker -pv
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure wasn't, it's emerging now thx. Is packages.gentoo.org the best place to look over the emerge packages if I'm missing anything further?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quickstrike wrote:
sure wasn't, it's emerging now thx. Is packages.gentoo.org the best place to look over the emerge packages if I'm missing anything further?

If your just browsing yes.
If you have an idea of part of the name you are looking for, you can use
Code:
emerge -s name

This will list all packages with name in the package name.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quickstrike wrote:
sure wasn't, it's emerging now thx. Is packages.gentoo.org the best place to look over the emerge packages if I'm missing anything further?


Not really... Even emerge -s is not the best choice since it takes so damn long to finish (unless you've applied sth to you disks:P). I prefer using app-portage/eix... It can search the tree for specified description, pkg name, etc.

Just an example:
Code:
$ time eix -S "kde panel"
* kde-base/kicker
     Available versions:  ~3.4.0 3.4.1
     Installed:           no
     Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
     Description:         KDE panel housing varous applets
[...]
Found 6 matches

real    0m0.092s
user    0m0.049s
sys     0m0.011s


Code:
$ emerge -S "kde panel"
Searching...
[ Results for search key : kde panel ]
[ Applications found : 7 ]

*  kde-base/kicker
      Latest version available: 3.4.1
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 45,110 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.kde.org/
      Description: KDE panel housing varous applets
      License:     GPL-2
[...]
real    5m30.459s
user    1m7.347s
sys     0m16.378s


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zieloo wrote:
Even emerge -s is not the best choice since it takes so damn long to finish (unless you've applied sth to you disks:P).

I was referring to searching by name, not multiple terms in the description field.
You are absolutely correct about time if you are searching in descriptions. :)
(Never actually needed to search description myself 8) )
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Headrush wrote:
zieloo wrote:
Even emerge -s is not the best choice since it takes so damn long to finish (unless you've applied sth to you disks:P).

I was referring to searching by name, not multiple terms in the description field.
You are absolutely correct about time if you are searching in descriptions. :)
(Never actually needed to search description myself 8) )


You have to use emerge -S, otherwise you won't see 'kicker' on the list.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zieloo wrote:
You have to use emerge -S, otherwise you won't see 'kicker' on the list.

:?:
Code:
root: tux > emerge -s kick
Searching...
[ Results for search key : kick ]
[ Applications found : 5 ]

*  dev-java/sidekick [ Masked ]
      Latest version available: 0.3
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 50 kB
      Homepage:    http://plugins.jedit.org/plugins/?SideKick
      Description: jedit plugin: The SideKick plugin provides a framework for high-level language-specific features
      License:     GPL-2

*  dev-util/elfkickers
      Latest version available: 2.0a
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 116 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/elfkickers.html
      Description: collection of programs to manipulate ELF files: sstrip, rebind, elfls, elftoc, ebfc
      License:     GPL-2

*  kde-base/kicker
      Latest version available: 3.4.1
      Latest version installed: 3.4.1
      Size of downloaded files: 45,110 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.kde.org/
      Description: KDE panel housing varous applets
      License:     GPL-2

*  kde-base/kicker-applets
      Latest version available: 3.4.1
      Latest version installed: 3.4.1
      Size of downloaded files: 3,337 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.kde.org/
      Description: kicker applets
      License:     GPL-2

*  net-misc/kickpim [ Masked ]
      Latest version available: 0.5.3
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 695 kB
      Homepage:    http://kickpim.sourceforge.net
      Description: A KDE panel applet for editing and accessing the KDE Addressbook.
      License:     GPL-2

I wasn't referring to this specific case either.

Thanks for the tip on eix, didn't know that one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
$ emerge -s panel | grep kicker
$

emerge -s panel (cuz you know its panel, quickstrike named it top/bottom panels) | grep kicker (it's just for me, as I already know the name).
What I'm trying to prove is that you shouldn't search via name if you don't know it... In some particular cases, yes, that's possible (and will be x times faster that emerge -S), but in some others won't give you the right results.

And eix is probably the best tool around when it comes to such a use.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eix is working great, my next questions was going to be something along the lines of "how to search descriptions" so it's perfect, thanks again!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quickstrike wrote:
eix is working great, my next questions was going to be something along the lines of "how to search descriptions" so it's perfect, thanks again!


eix has one (quite serious) disadvantage - you have to run /usr/bin/update-eix every time you sync your portage tree to keep it up to date.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, thx for the info.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zieloo wrote:
What I'm trying to prove is that you shouldn't search via name if you don't know it... In some particular cases, yes, that's possible (and will be x times faster that emerge -S), but in some others won't give you the right results.

And eix is probably the best tool around when it comes to such a use.

Wasn't trying to disprove that at all. :D
I was implying for when you knew what package was missing. In this case kdm. kicker, or startkde would all be found by emerge -s. You just want to find the full ebuild name.

eix is a better more exhaustive ebuild lookup tool. 8)

zieloo wrote:
eix has one (quite serious) disadvantage - you have to run /usr/bin/update-eix every time you sync your portage tree to keep it up to date.

Would be nice if this rebuilding of index was added to emerge --sync and eix abilities were added to emerge.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Headrush wrote:
zieloo wrote:
What I'm trying to prove is that you shouldn't search via name if you don't know it... In some particular cases, yes, that's possible (and will be x times faster that emerge -S), but in some others won't give you the right results.

And eix is probably the best tool around when it comes to such a use.

Wasn't trying to disprove that at all. :D


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@quickstrike: nice avatar:)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx! used to build that exact bomb in the US Navy (actual name was Quickstrike MK65 - 3500LB Bomb!)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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