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francescofavero
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: GNOME 2.12 Reply with quote

Hi, Gnome 2.12 it's quite out...
Has someone tryed the new ebuilds?..any package.unmask?
I tried but I had seberal problems...than at the end gnome wasn't able to start nyway...


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: GNOME 2.12 Reply with quote

francescofavero wrote:
Hi, Grome 2.12 it's quite out...
Has someone tryed the new ebuilds?..any package.unmask?
I tried but I had seberal problems...than at the end gnome wasn't able to start nyway...
It's not officially released for another few hours. :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here it's just 7 september...So...
No I'm joking about...but when should be an official update in Gentoo to the 2.12?
I hear aboutthat they'll use OpenGl in the new gnome... to resolve the slow loading of Gtk.. for me it's ok but what about of RAM using...and all of those that has a "old" graphc card?...
Actually i'm not sure about the really facts, i read this http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ and I was just thinking about...
If someone has just tried... just to know what does it means..I'm courious..openGL on a Desktop... :?: ..... :D
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gtk 2.8 uses cairo (which replaces gdk), and cairo can make use of glitz which is the opengl backend.
But don't expect too much from it yet: programs have to specifically use cairo functions for eyecandy, if they don't they'll just look the same as they ever would.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been running it since yesterday. Its faster, leaner, and more responsive. GNOME just gets better and better and this release exemplifies what Linux desktops should be. With the addition of some very nice hardware support, the project Utopia is getting close to becoming a reality. Gnome-vfs needs to be gutted and the new HAL API inserted to replace the current state of affairs but everything else is moving a long very well.

Open-gl support is not part of GNOME 2.12 and most likely won't be part of anything anytime soon from what I have read. GTK+ needs to support glitz and with cairo being so new, they really have there work cut out for them.

I am really excited about the future of Linux with cairo and glitz. Cairo will provide the framework for a smooth, antialiased environment and glitz will allow nearly everything drawn to take advantage of everyones beefed up video cards. Its about time we start using our hardware and since Windows seems to be getting slower with better hardware (I know, its quite odd how they do that ;) ), its nice to see Linux truly putting our GHZ CPUs, our 10,000 RPM drives, and our 256MB video cards to use :)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe i'm not understanding this right (drawing on *nix is confusing as hell) but gtk+ uses cairo to handle drawing. So any hardware acceleration could be implemented in cairo independant of gnome. Essentially cairo is just an abstraction layer.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lokheed wrote:
Its about time we start using our hardware and since Windows seems to be getting slower with better hardware (I know, its quite odd how they do that ;) ), its nice to see Linux truly putting our GHZ CPUs, our 10,000 RPM drives, and our 256MB video cards to use :)

I wonder, if my girlfriend and her old PC (400Mhz Celeron) can really use new Gnome. I've heard that new Gnome is quite resource demanding and such...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please tell me gnome 2.12 does away with the ghastly file chooser dialog... ! :?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

syouth wrote:
Lokheed wrote:
Its about time we start using our hardware and since Windows seems to be getting slower with better hardware (I know, its quite odd how they do that ;) ), its nice to see Linux truly putting our GHZ CPUs, our 10,000 RPM drives, and our 256MB video cards to use :)

I wonder, if my girlfriend and her old PC (400Mhz Celeron) can really use new Gnome. I've heard that new Gnome is quite resource demanding and such...

But there no official release for now (or just now) so everthing you've hear before is about the beta/development compilation of gnome, and until the official release, bugs could have a bad affect on ressources
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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