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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Status of Gentoo-PPC? Reply with quote

Hello.

I've been away from Gentoo and the rest of the Linux world for about a year. I used to run Gentoo-PPC on my iBook G4 with semi-sastifactory results and am considering re-installing Linux (either Gentoo or Debian) or possibly OpenBSD. I've also considered trading my iBook for a brand new Powerbook. When I stopped using Gentoo-PPC most hardware was supported except the following:

    Internal Modem
    DVI Video Out
    Airport Extreme Wireless
    Sleep/Suspend


I was just wondering if the current status of Gentoo-PPC has seen any advancement on those fronts. Especially, stable advancement, not just sketchy workarounds.

Anyways, thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Internal Modem - Still not supported (May work with Linuxant driver but that requires a license)
DVI Video Out - Works fine on ATi chipsets (may work on nVidia, I'm not sure)
Airport Extreme - Depends on your definition of "Sketchy". There is a stable workaround for now in the topic right at the top of this forum along with links to the driver development project.
Sleep/Suspend - Works fine on ATi chipsets, only software suspend on nVidia chipsets
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, thanks.

The PowerBooks are nVidia chipsets correct? Can you get 3D Acceleration with the either nVidia or ATI's chipsets?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. As it says on the Apple Powerbook sales pages, only the 12" PowerBooks use nVidia chipsets.
Rudimentary 3D support for the r300 chipset in the newer powerbooks is available, but isn't really considered stable yet. Support for r200 and older chipsets is stable and works well. There is no support for 3D on nVidia chipsets on PPC.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am very satisfied with Linux on my Powerbook:

  • As JoseJX said the support of the ATi chipset is experimental, but it works fine on my machine and I haven't had any problems for a month (it is surprisingly very stable). There is a HOWTO in the forums for DRI in the Powerbook
  • I am using a Orinoco WIFI pcmcia card and it works without any workarounds (though it does not work with Mac OS X Tiger anymore).
  • As I don't use the DVI Video Out I can't say much about that.
  • Sleep/Suspend is supported and works "very often" (my problem is that pbbuttonsd is crashing after resume and sometimes the system hangs on resume)

But overall the support is getting better and better.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you using one of the new G4 15" PowerBooks?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I got mine last year - what are the hardware specs of the new ones?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the newest Powerbooks, as far as I know, the only differences right now are:

Trackpad - Works with the appletouch driver
Keyboard - Differences are fixed in the latest kernels
3D support - These have an R300 based chipset, so 3D support is not quite stable
Sound - On some models (might only be iBook, I'm not sure) the external speakers only work with an ALSA patch.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, thanks.

I'm just trying to decide if it's worth upgrading to a new PowerBook or if I should keep my older (1 year or so) iBook G4 which seems to enjoy pretty good linux hardware support.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoseJX wrote:
With the newest Powerbooks, as far as I know, the only differences right now are:

Trackpad - Works with the appletouch driver
Keyboard - Differences are fixed in the latest kernels
3D support - These have an R300 based chipset, so 3D support is not quite stable
Sound - On some models (might only be iBook, I'm not sure) the external speakers only work with an ALSA patch.


The 12" model has an nvidia video chipset, and 3D support is nonexistant. Not that I care really, but being the odd duck among ppc laptops has made Linux support for Very Important Functions like sleep slower in coming. For that reason, even though I vastly prefer the 12" for its superior portability, I wish I had gone with a 15" this time around.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, after thinking about this for a while I was wondering what you guys would consider the best apple for running either Linux or BSD on. I mean the model that enjoys the best hardware support.

I'm thinking my iBook G4 circa '04 looks like a pretty good bet but I was just curious.

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