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Pacolov
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject: Is Gentoo decaying? Reply with quote

Hi, folks!

First I have to mention, that basically I do like Gentoo and that it is the one and only Linux distro I use.

My point: Half a year ago I turned away from Linux desktop because of MacOS X. Well, I'm still very happy with MacOS on the desk and Gentoo doing my server business . Anyway, I decided to buy a new x86 laptop due to the fact that I need some x86 hardware for my studies. Of course there is no doubt that Windows will have to vacate the laptops hd for some unix or alike. As I'm already quite familiar with Gentoo Linux, it should be the right choice for me.
BUT: What happened to the desktop environments? KDE 3.4.1, GNOME 2.10 - old as the hills. Half a year ago, portage team seemed more responsive to big updates of big projects. Ubuntu already has GNOME 2.12 and will QT4 ever reach the stable portage tree? Maybe I missed some important changes to the gentoo philosophy? However, it would be nice, if Gentoo simply worked like this again:
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emerge sync
emerge kdebase


I don't want to do some portage tweaking or whatever to be able to merge GNOME 2.12 oder KDE 3.4.3. Both are released! Why didn't the join stable tree already? :confused:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They haven't been made stable because they haven't been proven stable. They may be stable on other distros, but there's no proof they're rock solid on Gentoo (though 2.12 works just fine for me).
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Ubuntu links its releases to the Gnome releases, so they'll always be ahead on that no matter what.

In general, you can't have it both ways. If you want things to "just work", then you have to wait for it to be tested in ~arch long enough to be considered stable. If you want things to be updated quickly, they will be unstable.

This is why we have keywords, so you can choose your poison. Usually, ~arch stuff is just fine for desktop use, so toss a line in /etc/portage/package.keywords and go for it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Is Gentoo decaying? Reply with quote

Pacolov wrote:
BUT: What happened to the desktop environments? KDE 3.4.1, GNOME 2.10 - old as the hills. Half a year ago, portage team seemed more responsive to big updates of big projects. Ubuntu already has GNOME 2.12 and will QT4 ever reach the stable portage tree? Maybe I missed some important changes to the gentoo philosophy?

KDE 3.5 and Gnome 2.12 *are* in Portage. Moved to dups in favour of https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-335187.html and others.
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