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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:44 am    Post subject: Which Filesystem is best Reply with quote

I want to no which file system is best & most common amongst Gentoo users.
I am planning on doing a stage1 install instead of stage3.
Does it matter which file system I use inregards to speed & which file system is best compatible with Gentoo as I thought I read a while back that ext2 was the safest but is it as quick as reiserfs or jfs.
Also that there can be problems using Reiserfs or jfs, or is that old news as I read that a long time ago somewhere.
AnyWay any tips anyone can give on this would be appreciated as I have searched forum & Wiki & can't find any info on whats best.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReiserFS is fast for directories with lots of small files.
XFS is fastest generally, but can't stand power outages too much.
Ext3 is all-round winner imo (with the dir_index option).
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what do you recomend or what do you use your self
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reiserfs is working fine for me! it is fast for small files.
ext3 is good filesystem, too. i knew many people, which are very happy with it.
altogether i would say, it ist not so important, what kind of filesystem do you want to use.
useing ext2 for your bootpartition ist not a wrong decision, because it is the "safest".

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use ext3 on all file systems except boot, which is ext2.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks -Thats excellent
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in former times i used to use the best Reiserfs
but now i dont want to maintain the reiserfsprogs you need
so im even if its not that fast back with ext2,3 as it is the native gentoo file sys
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do NOT touch Reiserfs is your data is worth anything, the internet is full of problems with it, and it is IMPOSSIBLE to salvage your data if ANYTHING goed wrong with the filesystem, the fsck for reiser is a joke. I speak from experience.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NTT wrote:
the internet is full of problems with it

But mostly old problems with old versions of reiserfs, right? It's stable now. Is your bad experience with it recent?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, my experience if of, I think, two months ago now. Lost an entire 80Gb disk with photos, music, movies, programming projects, all gone, and NOTHING could be resolved, whatever tools I tried on it...I still have the disk in a closet, I keep it until something can get my data off it.
After that day, i see regularly poeple still posting on the numerous forums I visit, even now, about problems with corrupting reiserfs. How come you never hear of someone having problems and corruption on ext2/3 partitions? Is it just "coincidence"? reiserfs problems have never been away, and probably never will. The developers are so confident in themselves, they dont want to see the problems, fact is, its not something you can reproduce easily. And if you close your eyes, there are none.
I wouldn't recommend reiser to my worst enemy.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supposedly Reiser4 offers the speed of ReiserFS, and the stability of ext3 because it uses journaling, like ext3.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The journalling in reiser adds nothing in case of corruption. Its like moving water in a steel bucket without a bottom.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NTT: Thank you, I guess I need to reconsider my filesystem choice.

enderandrew wrote:
Supposedly Reiser4 offers the speed of ReiserFS, and the stability of ext3 because it uses journaling, like ext3.

Actually ReiserFS has journaling. Atomic writes are what theoretically makes Reiser4 safer.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taken from namesys.com:
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  • Reiser4 is the fastest filesystem, and here are the benchmarks.
  • Reiser4 is an atomic filesystem, which means that your filesystem operations either entirely occur, or they entirely don't, and they don't corrupt due to half occuring. We do this without significant performance losses, because we invented algorithms to do it without copying the data twice.
  • Reiser4 uses dancing trees, which obsolete the balanced tree algorithms used in databases (see farther down). This makes Reiser4 more space efficient than other filesystems because we squish small files together rather than wasting space due to block alignment like they do. It also means that Reiser4 scales better than any other filesystem. Do you want a million files in a directory, and want to create them fast? No problem.
  • Reiser4 is based on plugins, which means that it will attract many outside contributors, and you'll be able to upgrade to their innovations without reformatting your disk. If you like to code, you'll really like plugins....
  • Reiser4 is architected for military grade security. You'll find it is easy to audit the code, and that assertions guard the entrance to every function.

I've never spoken to a single person who actually used Reiser4 and didn't like it. The few who have negative things to say about Reiser, refer specifically to concerns over Reiser3.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

16 pages... https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-18375-highlight-filesystem.html
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