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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:20 am    Post subject: Trying to Install Gentoo on OldWorld Beige G3 with Quik Reply with quote

Here's my hardware...

Power Macintosh G3 (Beige)
266 MHz PowerPC G3 Processor
768 MB PC66 Memory
6 GB IDE Hard Disk (Primary Master)
24x IDE CD-ROM (Secondary Master)
100MB SCSI Zip100 Drive (ID 5)
Floppy Drive


Here's what I've done so far...

Installed and configured BootX in the current MacOS 9.x installation.
Booted from the Gentoo PPC 2005.1-r1 Universal Install CD.
Used the following partition scheme:
Code:
/dev/hda1    n/a        32k    Apple_partition_map
/dev/hda2    ext2      32MB    Boot
/dev/hda3    (swap)   512MB    Swap
/dev/hda4    ext3     5.5GB    Root

Followed the rest of the PPC Handbook to the best of my abilities.
Emerged quik and configured quik.conf to match my kernel and volume structure.
Used nvsetenv to set Open Firmware boot variables.
Ran "quik -v -C /boot/quik.conf".
Rebooted...


And nothing came up. No video signal, no response from the keyboard (no caps lock light), no network activity, etc. All I got was a startup chime and a black screen.

I rebooted and zapped the PRAM to clear the OF variables. I was then able to boot from a MacOS 9.x CD. I enabled AppleTalk on my network adapter and connected to an AFP share on another box. From there, I fired up bootvars and tried changing some OF variables. I wrote the new values and rebooted...

And nothing came up. Over and over again I tried different settings, but to no avail. It always get a chime and black screen, and have to zap the PRAM again.


Here's some of the Open Firmware boot variables I've tried...

auto-boot
true

boot-device
ata/ata-disk@0:0
ide0/disk@0:0

boot-file
/boot/kernel-2.6.14 root=/dev/hda4

boot-command
boot

input-device
kbd

output-device
video
screen

load-base
00004000
00060000
00100000
01000000


My best guess is that these settings are incorrect because my box goes comatose every time I reboot. Has anyone successfully used Quik as a bootloader and knows the right settings?

Since I wiped out the HFS+ partition that had my MacOS 9.x installation, I can't easily try using BootX to bring it up the new Gentoo installation. Nor can I use BootX to fire up the Install CD and chroot back in. I suppose one of the next logical steps would be burn a custom CD or use a Zip disk with MacOS 9.x and BootX. Is there anything I should know before attempting this?

As nice as it would be to just go through the entire install routine again, I'd really rather not. This box isn't the fastest in the world, and takes quite a while to sync Portage and compile the kernel. As comfortable as I am with installing Gentoo on x86, this is my first attempt on PPC. I'm sure it's possible that I could've screwed something up. But because the box doesn't seem to even try accessing the hard disk, I'm skeptical that the current problem is the fault of my Gentoo installation.

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My best guess is that you've set the load base wrong, if check with the quirks page again linked from the handbook and make sure that you're using the correct values for your system. You can probably still boot into open firmware by pressing apple+option+O+F, which would let you override this so you wouldn't have to reinstall every time.
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