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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8600texas : doing fine thanks ! :) I booted on the livecd, compiled a kernel (9 hours!), configured things and emerged a couple of packages already. But it took me weeks, because I don't have lots of time to work on the machine these days... :s -- I think that in a week or so I'll have a full system emerged and then I'll try to boot on the hard disk (yes, my Mac stayed on with livecd in the reader!). My plans are not including KDE as I'd like to try something lighter like fulxbos for instance. I'll posts the results!

COiN3D : JoseJX is right and I'll add that it is slightly different from fdisk. It may be useful to first boot into Mac OS and inspect the partitions with Apple's Disk Utility or another partition tool like FWB's partition toolkit. There were other (freeware) products but I can't remember the names as it was years ago I last used Mac OS 9 ;) Apple's bundled Disk Utility gives some basic information, however, and I was abl to work my way out of it using it. Good luck !
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoseJX is right!

Definitely, use mac-fdisk. It works great on my 8600/300. I also went in circles using the "wrong" fdisk programs. You name it.....I used it. I finally came across mac-fdisk. Mac-fdisk is the one to use. Unfortunately, the Gentoo Manuals tend to refer to PC fdisk programs and it can get pretty confusing. Not to mention the "funky" information the "wrong" fdisk program will give you!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey eXess,

Good for you.
9 hours to compile a kernel!
I've got you beat! I innocently(or stupidly) decided to compile KDE. It took 1.5 days to compile.....a day and half! WoWWW Can you believe that. When it finally finish, thank god it worked. so far, it was worth the compile wait.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you're reading the PowerPC manual! We do mention mac-fdisk there. :)
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc.xml
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the information, JoseJX. But what the hell is going on? Why does Mac OS create about eight partitions just to get one usable? What are all these good for?

I've got two scsi drives. On the first drive is Mac OS 7.5.5. Could I just fill the second partition with zeros and then create "normal" partitions with the "normal" fdisk? Would that work?

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those extra partitions are for MacOS disk drivers, they're required on the disks you want to boot MacOS from. You can safely delete them if you're not booting that disk. I'm not sure what you mean by "normal" fdisk, fdisk is for writing x86 partitions, mac-fdisk is for writing apple partitions. You can use non-mac partitioned drives as data drives, but I really recommend using apple partitions if you can.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoseJX wrote:
Those extra partitions are for MacOS disk drivers, they're required on the disks you want to boot MacOS from. You can safely delete them if you're not booting that disk. I'm not sure what you mean by "normal" fdisk, fdisk is for writing x86 partitions, mac-fdisk is for writing apple partitions. You can use non-mac partitioned drives as data drives, but I really recommend using apple partitions if you can.


Okay, thanks. I'm currently doing an emerge --sync (for about 2 hours now, LOL :D), but installing gentoo on such an old thing is a completely different feeling :)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whow. On this page http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc.xml?part=1&chap=10#bootx it says mount mac partition with -t hfs. This results in a warning and read-only mount if your partition is indeed hfs+ (as mine is) so you need to use this code instead :

Code:
# exit
cdimage ~# mkdir /mnt/mac
cdimage ~# mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/mac -t hfsplus
cdimage ~# cp /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/vmlinux "/mnt/mac/System Folder/Linux Kernels"

(please note the "plus" for the type)

This is tricky ! Could not emerge hefplusutils (chrooted or not). Maybe the wiki (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Add_Apple's_hfs_hfsplus_Utilities) could be a little more specific about it? And maybe there should be a definitive choice between "HFS+" and "hfsplus" denominations...

and... WORKS !
Booting successful with BootX (from MacOS boot screen, no need to boot full Mac desktop)
no kernel args, just the right kernel (the one I compiled) and no options...

Now I expect something like 3 days to compile xorg and fluxbox :)
I'll keep in touch and maybe by the end of the year I'll have a working PM7600 :D
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried compiling the 2.6.18-r3 kernel on my 8600, but when I re-boot from BootX,
I am left with a frozen MacOS screen. Linux boots, and I can log in and restart
the computer, but I have no output to the screen. The Old World kernel mentioned
in this thread works fine, so I presume I am missing something in the kernel configuration.

Does anyone have advice on this? I have Radeon support compiled into the kernel, as
well as a number of frame buffer related options.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you actually have a radeon card in your OW machine? That would be unusual, check with the dmesg output from the working kernel to verify which framebuffer your machine is using.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoseJX wrote:
Do you actually have a radeon card in your OW machine? That would be unusual, check with the dmesg output from the working kernel to verify which framebuffer your machine is using.

I got it working by trying to use genkernel. Genkernel failed to compile the kernel, but I picked up from the .config file it made, which had no video problem, and added various missing
pieces until everything worked. In the process I deleted pam-login which was blocking an emerge -uD world that was interrupted with a reboot, so I spent a couple of days seeking out media and cables so I could finish the emerge world, which gave me back my login. This was part of my delay in replying. Now I am trying to see what kind of card I have in this 8600, for the benefit of
anyone who sees this thread in the future. Unfortunately , I had used dmesg -c and I only know how to re-generate the initial dmesg info by re-booting, which I can't do right now because this 8600 is the router for other computers. Thank you for the help, and I will try to update this thread when/if I figure out exactly what about the new config file got me past the video freezing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who might happen on this thread, here is what I know about the video in the 8600:
from lspci:
Code:

0001:01:0b.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: Apple Computer Inc. Control Video
0001:01:0d.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. PlanB Video-In (rev 01)

and from dmesg:
Code:

controlfb: VRAM Total = 4MB (2MB @ bank 1, 2MB @ bank 2)
controlfb: using video mode 6 and color mode 0.
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30
fb0: control display adapter
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