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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Where is the Experimental Install CD for Powerbook 5,9? Reply with quote

I have been looking for the past three days for the Experimental Install CD that would allow me to install Gentoo on my Powerbook 17" 5,9 and have been unable to find it.

Or rather, I found one that was posted in November, however it required a username and password as "Gentoo Release Candidates are not for public release".
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-396455.html

I was wondering if someone can point me to where it can be downloaded?

Thank you very much.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the same boat, trying to get Gentoo installed on a Powerbook 5,8. It's been a rough road so far.

You might want to try the files at: http://wh-og.fh-niederrhein.de/~lars/files/

However, I downloaded and burned the 2006.0 RC1 ISO image from there and it didn't seem to actually be a bootable CD, so I gave up at that point. Didn't try the 2005.1-r1 image from there, as of yet, as I guess that will still have the same problems as the 2005.1 release (unable to mount CD after booting).

If you have any success, please report back on how you did it 8)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 2006.0 rc you found can be booted by starting to OF and then at the prompt, type boot cd:\boot\ofboot.b

The 2006.0 final release will fix this issue.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, thanks a lot for the pointer, Jose! I'll give it another shot tonight :)

BTW, which of the two stage3 tarballs should I use. My guess is that stage3-g4 is the same as the stage3-ppc but with G4 optimizations, so that would be the correct one for a Powerbook, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that's correct. Just be sure that you use at least a 2.6.15 kernel when you install, this will ensure that you have the patches needed to boot. :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, sadly, it seems the ISO images and stage3 files have been removed from the above URL today. Talk about bad timing :wink:

Jose, is there any other location from where one could download the PPC/G4 stage3 tarballs for 2006.0 RC1?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Arto and JoseJX for the help up until this point.
It is too bad that the server no longer has the ISO or stage.

If there is any other sources where we could use to install Gentoo on our Powerbooks, we would greatly appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to BUMP this topic, as I would really like to start using Linux on my Powerbook, and we have seen that the iso is around somewhere to make this happen.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best I can offer you right now is to wait for the 2006.0 release which should happen soon. If you already have a CD, you can use an older stage to install with, it doesn't matter. I'll ask Pylon if it's possible to take away the password protection on the 2005.1-r1 livecd that he originally made for these machines.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the response JoseJX.

I do not have the Experimental 2005.1-r1 ppc iso or the Experimental 2006.0 ppc iso.

I understand that I can utilize one of the standard stages on my powerbook, as the Kernel provides the hard disk access once everything is installed and configured on the system.

I am in the process of utilizing an OpenSUSE installation disk as the base for a gentoo install, however am not holding out much hope at the moment... it is SUSE afterall.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using both OpenSuse and Ubuntu as a base for installing Gentoo were a complete flop...

Rather, here is what happened.
OpenSuse could not extract the files contained in the stages or portage snapshot as it lacked bunzip2. They did not incude a PPC bunzip2 in the installer (for some reason they have the x86 in the PPC repository, so not working for obvious reasons).

Next, under Ubuntu, everything worked just fine but for some reason would not allow me to load yaboot. It wanted to initialize the drive (the gentoo yaboot while inside of Ubuntu's livecd).

So, needless to say, I am still on the lookout for an installer disk.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@projectle, I still have the 2006.0_rc1 PPC disc I downloaded before the files were deleted from the link posted above. I don't have any of stage3 tarballs that were posted there, though; but if indeed the standard stages work, perhaps you can get up and running.

I'm currently on a low-bandwidth connection but will try and get it uploaded somewhere during tomorrow. Please PM me if you're interested in trying it out. I don't myself have the time to mess around with this at the moment, so glad to hear your experiences if you do give it a try.

@Jose, I have to admit I'm somewhat at a loss to understand why these files are not generally available. I would have thought the Gentoo developers would encourage volunteer "beta testers" like myself and projectle to give them a spin before the official 2006.0 release. Or does Gentoo have a large enough private testing force that it doesn't matter? If so, where could one join this select group?

Anyway, I'd also be interested to know the planned availability for the final 2006.0 PPC release.

On the bright side, this situation has forced me to take a look around and learn about interesting alternatives such as SourceMage, so it's not been a total loss.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arto:

It's not my choice, you'll have to bring it up with the release engineering folks. We weren't even supposed to have those experimental CDs up there, which is why they were removed. :p I think a larger testing pool would be better as well, but like I said, it's out of my hands.
I don't know the exact release date, but I do know that there was a last minute issue with the release media that prevented it from being released last week and that it's been fixed. Real Soon Now is the best estimate I can give you.

The stages from 2005.1 will indeed work with the 2006.0 install CD or any other distro's CD you can boot from. As long as you can use tar, bunzip2 and chroot, you should be able to install with any distro's CD. You will have to work around installing yaboot by installing it from within the choot with /sys /proc and /dev bind mounted, which is sometimes a bit of a pain. You will have to perform a "networked" install though, the kernel provided in the 2005.1 grp does not contain the kernel patches for your PB.

I know it's frustrating, but there's not much I can do for you. Sorry. :(
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I now have a "successful" install through using the experimental 2006.0 rc1 PPC ISO provided to me by Arto.

Please note the "successful" part, as I am having a bit of an issue, not with the disc though.

Everything went fine up until my reboot, at which point the system was not able to detect the hard disk.

I used the vanilla-sources and "genkernel all" to make everything work.

I would have assumed that the latest kernels had this patch already applied into them as this issue first reared its ugly head 4 months ago.

Is there a different kernel that I should use, or is there an additional setting that needs to be made inside of menuconfig's device drivers section?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exact message:

The root block device is unspecified or not detected.
Please specify a device to boot, or "shell" for a chell...
boot()::
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After recompiling with the PowerMac Controller enabled (Device Drivers/ATA/PowerMac) I was allowed to manually specify /dev/hda4 without it throwing a fit, and the system booted. I am really surprised that the root=/dev/hda4 option set in yaboot.conf was not utilized, however it seems to be working at the moment.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As is says in the handbook, we recommend that you run a "make defconfig" to ensure that sane defaults are set. This would have enabled the PowerMac ATA controller automatically.

As for the original topic, the 2006.0 release media is making its way to the mirrors right now, the official 2006.0 CD should be available by tomorrow. :)

Edit: Already available. :)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoseJX wrote:
As is says in the handbook, we recommend that you run a "make defconfig" to ensure that sane defaults are set. This would have enabled the PowerMac ATA controller automatically.

As for the original topic, the 2006.0 release media is making its way to the mirrors right now, the official 2006.0 CD should be available by tomorrow. :)


Excellent.
Thanks :)
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