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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Gentoo hates me.... problems with X, pbbuttonsd [SOLVED] Reply with quote

Hello....first post ever(woo)! I am having problems with my Powerbook 5,6 (1.67 GHz, non-high res). First: it randomly shuts off. I am using it, and it will just shut off. This only seems to happen when X is running. And it helps a lot to aim my USB fan at the vent...so I assume it is heat-related. Therm_adt746x is loaded...I am lost.

Pbbuttonsd: How do you set it so that you have to push fn to access the F keys? It controls my LCD and volume just fine, but whenever I hit the key it also performs any actions assigned to the F-key (so, when I want to turn up the volume, and I happen to have Firefox focused, the page reloads as I turn up the volume). Oh, and the eject button doesn't work.
Oh, and how would I get gtkpbbuttons working? (Or change that annoying volume beep?)

Any help is greatly appreciated! I am very much a n00b.... but the stuff I have working is great. Thanks!

EDIT: Oh, and firefox crashes, seems to be random (maybe sites with javascript? Extremetech, any facebook page that isn't the main page crashes....random other pages).

EDIT2: Nope, javascript works fine, checked at a javascript tutorial....

EDIT3: And now it is working....weird. Maybe it was gplflash (I removed it...)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a hardware issue to me, but I'm afraid I don't really work with laptops or hardware/kernel related issues. As for the beeps, check out a mixer (alsamixer, or something similar) and lower or turn off the 'system' sound (I'm pretty sure thats the name for it, but one of them effects the internal beeper)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Alsamixer Reply with quote

Oh....wow, I saw that, and completely forgot about it....but thanks! Now I gotta figure out how to save the configuration I set up (every time I reboot I have to set everything in alsamixer all over again). Would you know how to do this? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject: Hardware Reply with quote

Oh, and I don't think it is the hardware itself (unless it broke during the last three weeks during the gentoo install so-far), because everything worked fine in OSX. But I will keep that in mind (I guess Applecare exists for a reason ;-) )
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh? Alsa settings aren't saved? Do you have it running at boottime? (did you run "rc-update add alsasound default") If you did then I may not be understanding that question correctly.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Nope! Reply with quote

No, never did that (never saw it in the handbook) but that makes sense. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:36 pm    Post subject: Hello? Reply with quote

Any ideas from anyone? Sorry to be persistent, but I am sick of my laptop randomly shutting off. (My biggest annoyance)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a CPU governor running? That might help reduce the heat. Installing one is covered here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-faq.xml#laptoppkgs

Also, try installing the ~ppc version of pbbuttonsd, it may fix some of the other issues you've got with pbbuttonsd on newer machines.

GPLFlash is known to crash firefox. There isn't a good replacement for flash on ppc:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-faq.xml#flash
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoseJX wrote:
Do you have a CPU governor running? That might help reduce the heat. Installing one is covered here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-faq.xml#laptoppkgs

Also, try installing the ~ppc version of pbbuttonsd, it may fix some of the other issues you've got with pbbuttonsd on newer machines.

GPLFlash is known to crash firefox. There isn't a good replacement for flash on ppc:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-faq.xml#flash


Well, I looked in the kernel config, and it was set to default userspace or something (I don't remember). Otherwise I had all of the CPU governors compiled in the kernel, but I could not get to installing them.....it decided to have one of its crashes while compiling the kernel, and now it is all screwed up. I think I am stuck with starting over. REALLY annoying.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The userspace governor does nothing without a userspace app to control it. Any of the options listed in the FAQ are acceptable.

Also, therm_adt746x is tunable, you could try turning the fans on at a lower temperature, that might help too.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject: X again Reply with quote

Well, it works, I have internet...but only through links. Now I have to run ifconfig eth0 up and dhcpcd eth0 everytime I reboot....and X shuts off the computer immediately after I startx. I am visiting my friend down the hall (college dorm), so I will see if he can help. But any suggestions are still appreciated. I am not so sure it is heat related though....it will sit for hours without X running and be perfectly happy being burning hot. Hmm.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Betterness Reply with quote

Alright, we got some things fixed...I have a lighted keyboard now (woo), wireless works, and I don't think I have to type extra things when I reboot for ethernet anymore. Yay! Now I am going to play Perfect Dark Zero. I still have the problem with pbbuttonsd.... and I am scared to check on X...don't want more crashes! I am certain that X is the problem and not heat, cuz the Powerbook is certainly hotter now than it ever was when it crashed, and it is happy as ever to be running.

UPDATE: X still crashes, but this time it does it immediately after startx.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject: Anyone? Reply with quote

Sorry...posting again. I am just tired of having no GUI. I know it is X because as soon as I startx it turns the computer off, no matter what. And it has gotten very hot without X running on a regular basis, hotter than it ever did when it shut off, so it isn't heat.

So, anyone know of X immediately turning off the computer?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

startx drive to shutdown... but hard shutdown or soft shutdown?
check /var/log for system messages and X logs to see if there is something which can help to find where the problem is.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HoLzPLatTeN wrote:
startx drive to shutdown... but hard shutdown or soft shutdown?
check /var/log for system messages and X logs to see if there is something which can help to find where the problem is.


Well, it gives me warnings about not detecting the video BIOS, and one about not detecting a secondary monitor, and that the panel size 1280x854 is derived and may not be correct, direct rendering is not supported on Radeon 9500 and newer cards, option "ColorTiling" is not used, and finally "could not init font path element /usr/share/font/local, removing from list!" and the same message except with /usr/share/font/util.

It now will run X for a little while before a hard shutdown....I realized I left some stuff in the xorg.conf about a Synaptics driver (i commented it out).

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is a hard shutdown, then the problem should be due to a dangerous operation with your hardware and BIOS then does a power down. Perhaps unsupported screen resolution or incorret graphic driver?

Try with a standard driver like vga and a resolution of 800x600 and tell if it works.

(Sorry for my bad English :oops:)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HoLzPLatTeN wrote:
If it is a hard shutdown, then the problem should be due to a dangerous operation with your hardware and BIOS then does a power down. Perhaps unsupported screen resolution or incorret graphic driver?

Try with a standard driver like vga and a resolution of 800x600 and tell if it works.


Alright, I tried that...and X refused to start. I am now going to see how well the radeon driver works versus the general ati driver. I still get the video bios errors. From my understanding of macs, they don't even have a BIOS tho...they use some other technology (whose name I have completely forgotten). Maybe that has something to do with it?

HoLzPLatTeN wrote:
(Sorry for my bad English :oops:)


Your English seemed fine. Are you from Germany(or Austria or Switzerland)? Your id looks german.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HoLzPLatTeN wrote:
If it is a hard shutdown, then the problem should be due to a dangerous operation with your hardware and BIOS then does a power down. Perhaps unsupported screen resolution or incorret graphic driver?

Try with a standard driver like vga and a resolution of 800x600 and tell if it works.


Alright, I tried that...and X refused to start. I am now going to see how well the radeon driver works versus the general ati driver. I still get the video bios errors. From my understanding of macs, they don't even have a BIOS tho...they use some other technology (whose name I have completely forgotten). Maybe that has something to do with it?

HoLzPLatTeN wrote:
(Sorry for my bad English :oops:)


Your English seemed fine. Are you from Germany(or Austria or Switzerland)? Your id looks german.


Back...the radeon driver worked as well as the ati driver. My friend sent me his xorg.conf from his Powerbook to see if it worked (as well as his kernel sources, which upon compilation and reboot panicked), and it didn't really change anything.

Anyone have xorg.confs that they are willing to share for a Powerbook 5,6? Or, of course, suggestions :)

Maybe it would help if I moved this to Desktop Environments...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Solved Reply with quote

Alright, I just ran Xorgautoconfig, fixed a couple things to give me more than one button, and everything works great. I don't know how to mark this as solved...help please?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey!

Click on the "Edit" button and then change the subject!

Greetz
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey!

Click on the "Edit" button and then change the subject!

Greetz


Oh, wow, that was easy!
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