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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Really I'm a N00b Reply with quote

I need help installing Gentoo. I have an iBook G3 600 MHz wiht 10.3.9 OS X on it. I have no idea what system to install. I have 3 partitions- 1st-Mac OS X 2nd- Mac Classic 3rd- Gentoo-Linus (Empty). I have no knowledge of open firmware or anything. I am 14 years which is why I dont know much. I have downloaded the file to a Windows XP laptop and burned the PPC gentoo to a CD-RW but for some reason it won't install on my ibook. Can someone help me I am 14 and have no knowledge or abbreviations or anything else in computer technology. Can someone make an easy explanation step by step the handbook for me I dont get casue they go into typing "oobgloosh" which I don't know . NICE PEOPLE ONLY please reply :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I cant help you with installing gentoo, but If you new to linux i HIGHLY RECCOMEND going to www.ubuntu.com and using ubuntu. It has a GRAPHICAL INSTALLER, and a ppc distribution.

Once you have mastered linux with ubuntu, and know how to run things off the COMMAND LINE, then come back to Gentoo.

Note: I did my first Gentoo 2005.0 install when I was 15, last year :D. Of course I was using dial-up so I couldn't really get a desktop environment going.

Enjoy,
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc.xml
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While there are other Linux distributions that are considered more new user “friendly”, there is no reason if you have some basic computer knowledge you can't install Gentoo and it also be your first time using and installing Linux. I have know a couple of people who have successfully installed Gentoo on their first try and it be their first Linux distro.

If you have ever installed any OS before from scratch onto a blank hard drive, understand what the different components in your PC are (don't have know how they work, just what they are), understand formating and partitioning of disks, and are able to and willing to read and follow directions then there is no reason to not give Gentoo a try. If you want to that is.

However, just my opinion, but if you are new to Linux (regardless of which distribution you choose) making your first install on a laptop may not be a good choice. Laptops tend to have more complex driver issues then just regular PCs.

My advice, choose a distribution, go though the install process on a PC, then once you see how it is supposed to work, and you are comfortable with the process, then try and install to your laptop.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey man, im 14 myself :wink: started using gentoo when I was 12, and I could understand the terms. No I'm not some genius, or a complete nerd :oops: i hope not. Anyway, yeah, you want a ppc livecd obviously. I think you'll get through the install just fine. You might run into a few errors, but just post here or search the forums for the answer. 99.9% of the possible installation errors you could get have probably been covered anyways.

Since you've never used linux before, heres some tips about the linux hard-drive, or filesystem:

/home/<whateveryourusernameis>/ - this is the place where you keep all your personal files, music, videos, that kinda stuff. Mine is /home/alex/ for example.

/etc/ - this is the folder with all the configuration files, well most of them. So if you wanted to, say, reconfigure samba (a tool for sharing over a windows network) you would edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf file.

/usr/ - this will probably be the biggest folder in terms of space. It holds most content, like executables, picture and sound files for applications, the application data that can accessed by a user.

*/bin/ - in case you didn't know, the asterix * represents a wildcard. Meaning anything could go infront of the /bin/. What I'm trying to say here is that the */bin/ folders contain executables, the files you can run. Unlike windows, linux stores all the executables in one place. Well, maybe two or three places, but they are all /bin/ folders. Windows would put the executables in the file with the program data, linux doesnt do this. The app data would probably go in /usr/

. - If there is a . infront of a file, that means it's "hidden". You'll find these in your home folder for configuration files or folders. For example, you may have a /home/blah/.xinitrc . This file contains the configuration for starting X, the graphical desktop program.

Theres a lot more stuff, but I just thought I'd give you some background info before you started, since learning the filesystem was the wierdest part for me. Remember, theres no more C: drive :P

EDIT: OH, I almost forgot, theres no more .exe :twisted: Most files won't have extensions on them.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key for me has always been not to give up and to NEVER be afraid to try something new. At worst you'll just have to reinstall (sounds like a pain, but can be enjoyable). I'll be honest, I tried to install Gentoo atelast 4 times before I finally got a working install. But everytime you do it, you learn something new. My best advice when installing is to do exactly what the handbook says. Use the USE variables they use and everything. After you get it installed, working, and maybe even set up fairly close to how you want it, you can go back and play the USE variables and such. The key is just to get it working, then customize it. Good luck!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Installing Gentoo to Gentoo on PPC.
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