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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2003 12:04 am    Post subject: EPoX nForce2, and USB Reply with quote

I just spent a long time trying to get USB to work on my Gentoo partition, and part (Most :oops: ) of this information I received from nForcersHQ. It appears that if you have a nForce2-based EPoX board (8RDA, 8RGA, etc) and a SCSI controller, USB does not work in Linux. The only way around this seems to be to disable IEEE1394 (Firewire) in the BIOS, as that free's up IRQ's for USB. Anyway, I thought this could help some people had USB trobule with their nForce2's from EPoX, it certainly helped me :).

Edit: Might as well forget what I said about SCSI, it seems whether or not you have a SCSI controller the issues are still present, and the only fix atm is to disable IEEE1394 or flash to new beta (scroll down) BIOS (Which still you must disable firewire...)


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2003 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite sure if this would work or not but... You could try disabling the serial ports if your not using them. You could also try disabling the printer port as well. That should free up 2 or 3 IRQs.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah this issue really pisses me off ... i have been using epox for a pretty long time now and their responce to this was that they dont support linux... every bios release with the exception of 01-29-2003 results in the usb #1 header not assigned an irq in the bios ... windows works around this but linux cannot. i use scsi with this board but have had to use above bios to have access to all the usb ports... additionally the only pci slot that i can put anything in is #6 (thats where my u160 controller is) ... since the nforce is fairly complete i didnt need any additional cards anyway.

today i flashed with the 05-08-2003 bios release and xfree wouldnt give me a screen ... basically i am done with epox now... just ordered an msi board along with the xp3200+.

i wouldnt suggest anyone using linux to by the epox nforce2
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too am done with EPoX. While the 8rda+ works great with windows the linux support is absolutely horrible. Part of it would be nVidia's fault for being opensource unfriendly and the other part would be EPoX's for not being able to program a BIOS worth half a penny.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, It looks like you saved me $150 and a big headache. I have have an Epox board now with Via's KT266A chipset and I haven't had a lick of trouble with it. In fact I was so impressed that I was planning on upgrading it with another Epox board.

"We don't support that" is manufacture's code for "We are barely competent and because Microsoft's software makes up for our shortcomings, so we will only deal with them."

How hard would it be for a manufacturer to say something like:

"Our hardware will work with most x86 operating systems Windows 9x, ME, 2000, and XP, and it has also been tested with Linux (or RedHat) Linux. Unfortunately due to the technical nature of Linux configurations, we can only provide telephone and email support for Linux. Here are a few links to help you out .... "

or

"The hardware has been tested on the Linux operating system and while the major features of this product are known to work with this board, you may have problems with feature X and feature Y."

In my opinionation hardware should be completely independent of software. In other words certain software other than basic, open source drivers shouldn't be necessary. A lot of hardware manufacturers include Value Added software and services as a marketing and promotional tools. This practice is fine with me. I just want to get basic use out of my hardware and I shouldn't have to buy or use proprietary software to use it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A new beta BIOS out fixed the issue, and it works perfectly now :)

Dont know if this helps anyone, but http://www.motherboardfaqs.com/Epox_nForce2/files/bios/8rda3522.zip
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm using that bios now. I'm in the process of testing it with gentoo. SuSE 8.2 worked fine.

There's also kind of a dual thread on this board:
http://www.amdforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1835864#post1835864

Btw you wouldn't happen to have a changelog for the 5/22 bios would ya?
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Safrax wrote:
Btw you wouldn't happen to have a changelog for the 5/22 bios would ya?

No :(. One thing I know that changed is USB + AGP dont share the same IRQ anymore (Or thats what I read at nforcershq, but I never noticed sharing of IRQ's between the 2 before)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also agree with this.

usb-ehci loads, but doesn't activate my USB mouse when I have Firewire enabled in my BIOS.

Personally, I turn EVERYTHING off I dont use, such as Parellel and Seriel etc and IEEE. Fixes it right up :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone please confirm wether the epox 8rda+ works? I have to buy a new motherboard, and there seemed to have been some problems with support for this one under linux. I can buy an epox with via chipset too, but nforce2 is so fast...
Plz help me, I have to make this decision very quickly :?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get an MSI nforce2 board. Don't support EPoX. But yes the board works so long as you use either the 1/29 BIOS or the 5/22 BIOS. I haven't been able to test my 8rda+ with any bios newer than 5/22 lately so...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Safrax wrote:
Get an MSI nforce2 board. Don't support EPoX. But yes the board works so long as you use either the 1/29 BIOS or the 5/22 BIOS. I haven't been able to test my 8rda+ with any bios newer than 5/22 lately so...

Thats not exactly true. Disable Firewire and it works on all BIOS's. :P

To me its either the 8RDA+ or the NF7-S Rev 2.0, because I need a good board for overclocking :), and the 8RDA+ fits my wallet better.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shouldnt need to disable ANYTHING to get the board to work. Besides disabling firewire did not work for me. Only the new 1/29 or 5/22 Bioses did.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your answers guys (and girls), I have decided not to buy this board. I just need good support, and I am not really into this closed source thingy... I am going to buy a slightly epox with a via chipset (my previous was a bit the same, and epox was really good).
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem whit USB keybord...PS2 port broken.

Okay I have an 8RDA+ Nforce2 bord from gues ho...EPOX....:)
And I have tryed eny thing but no keyboard in root#....ewry com and serial port is disabeld and usb keyboard is enabel and i have the new BIOS on....hmmm I can use the keybord when gentoo is not loadet, I can pres F2 F3 F1 and whrite an command as gentoo dokeymap because i have an Danish keybord but when i must select the Danish keyboard it is not working....deamit and DOOH!...I think I will bay an new board, but eny one have an ide then help me pls!
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