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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Would you use a Quicksilver G4 as a Gentoo FTP server ? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I a few days, I'll be installing Gentoo Linux on a machine in order to make it a FTP server (on the internet, through ADSL router) with Samba and AFP on the LAN. No Xorg, possibly Apache, probably DDClient. So, see, quite a basic config.

The question is what machine should I use ?

I'll probably be faced with a choice between a strandard Intel PC (probably HP/compaq desktop machine) and a Quicksilver Powermac G4. I'm wondering if the Mac is a good choice to go with. We're looking at something (I don't have the exact specs yet) ranging from a PPC G4 @ 733 MHz to a dual G4 @ 1.0 GHz. Will probably come with 512 Mb RAM and large HD. That's not what I'm talking about.

What my question really is : is this kind of machine suited for 24/7 uptime with reasonable reliability ?

Or would you go with a standard "blank PC with chosen extra-strong additional hardware for power and HDs" ?

Thanks all for sharing your experience.
cheers.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really don't need much CPU power for file sharing, so the dual G4 is probably overkill. As much RAM as you can have is probably good, especially if you also want to run a webserver.

I have a P-III (800 MHz) doing all my server needs. I get sustained file transfer speeds of 6-7 MB/s over wired LAN, 1.5 MB/s over wireless LAN, and about 500 KB/s over WAN. That's with a single user, though, so if you have a lot of concurrent users, you might want to make sure the harddisks don't bog you down.

One thing you might want to consider is power usage, cooling and noise. For that, a CPU that draws the minimum amount of power is good.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx baeksu. I absolutely agree with you. The G4 is probably more than needed for what I itend to do. Plus it's kind of noisy and needs quite a lot of power (it has 360W - 400W power supply, which is quite a lot for a machine that age and I suspect it will run at 150-200W while in standby).

I was more concerned about general reliability (especially that of the power supply) and the lack of easy-to-buy and cheap replacement hardware. I guess that placing an order at Apple for a replacement $150 power supply is quite a hassle when you can get a standard ATX 400W power supply for $20 at Radio Shack...

Thanks for other opinions...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a Quicksilver G4 as a Gentoo FTP server ? Reply with quote

eXess wrote:
24/7 uptime with reasonable reliability
Get a good branded power supply; personally I like Enermax
My IT office had to replace supplies on our 60 computers every few months because the capacitors kept melting



HDD and file system setup are the most important considerations for servers.
My desktop doubling as a Samba server was v. slow running on 1 HDD
You need 1 to hold the OS and installed programs, and 1 (or more) for your shared folder.

I don't know how much of a boost RAIDing the shared folder will be
But I don't think it's worth it since you're limited by your ADSL connection anyway.
Maybe someone else can correct me on that.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks om. I noticed just what you said about speed improvement with 2 HDD. That's exactly what I'm planning to do, it's an excellent advice. As for power supplies, I'm pretty sure that the only place I can buy a spare power supply for an Apple Powermac is... at Apple. That's exactly my concern, because Apple hardware is expensive and always has to be ordered, so it means long downtime, and that's not acceptable.

I have to add that the place where I'm going to install the whole thing is a small work place, so cutting-edge performance is not really that important. Things must most of all be simple and efficient, not more.

Thanks again.
Other thoughts you'd like to share ?
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