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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: it's 19,may now? Reply with quote

but I haven't seen gentoo 2008.0 final news?
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

day's not over...
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wim-x wrote:
day's not over...


Yeah and gentoo foundation is located in new mexico, it`s almost 10 hours after europe i think, as result gentoo 2008.0 can be released tomorrow at 10 am :mrgreen:
Don`t hold your breath :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel disappointed.

just want to try installing a new gentoo today, to review happiness solving the problems when installing.

and several days ago I format my system. wait till now.

Kollin wrote:
wim-x wrote:
day's not over...


Yeah and gentoo foundation is located in new mexico, it`s almost 10 hours after europe i think, as result gentoo 2008.0 can be released tomorrow at 10 am :mrgreen:
Don`t hold your breath :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been waiting on the official 2008.0 release to do an install too. If the devs need more time, then I don't have a problem with that. They've definitely had their fair share of other issues as well. I just want to know what exactly why it is being delayed, what the current status is, and how soon we can expect to have the official release. The Gentoo project has all sorts of methods to keep the community updated; they should be using them. Just one quick update through the RSS feed or the forums would be satisfactory.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gnot wrote:
... just want to try installing a new gentoo today ...


If you really cannot wait, use the Gentoo 2008.0_beta2 release :wink:
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We should get some notice though if delivery is not on schedule.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wim-x wrote:
day's not over...
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the release schedule, May 19 is when the final 2008.0 was supposed to be released. So, there is no more "day is not over" excuse. However, they haven't kept the release schedule up to date as far as what they have completed (beta 2 is still not marked as completed when in fact it is). There is nothing wrong with a deadline being pushed back. Lack of communication is the problem.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well... we'll see. soon enough, hopefully. ;)
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've seen you can't really go off of the release schedule. Also don't expect notice if the delivery is not on schedule.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the schedule, please note the numerous notices saying that these are tentative target dates and that they may change without notice.

Open source projects are staffed by volunteers who have real lives to deal with. They are not paid. They have real jobs they have to deal with.

The release of a tentative schedule is curtesy they do not have to do.

Please stop whining about these dates.

No deadlines have been missed because there are no deadlines. There is no set date when the release is supposed to happen. These dates are a guide. That is all they are.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anyone is disputing that fact nor whining about it. We are just wondering if we were going to get to enjoy the fruits of their labor this day or not. And just b/c it's a volunteer project doesn't mean that in and of itself is an excuse to publish random dates and go willy nilly with the release schedule. Not saying that is the case, but organization and communication are key even in volunteer / open source projects.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AllenJB wrote:

No deadlines have been missed because there are no deadlines. There is no set date when the release is supposed to happen. These dates are a guide. That is all they are.


Only thing that's for sure is that it will be released on December 31st 2008 or earlier. Otherwise it will be 2009.0 ;)
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wim-x wrote:


If you really cannot wait, use the Gentoo 2008.0_beta2 release :wink:


Which was in a worse state than beta1.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,
Can anyone explain why Gentoo wants to bring out a gui installer?
The previous one was too buggy to be of any use.
A gui installer will put it in the same league as ubuntu sabayon etc.
For me the rescuecd is # 1.It has everything you might need to make
a comfortable CLI install.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

assaf wrote:
Only thing that's for sure is that it will be released on December 31st 2008 or earlier. Otherwise it will be 2009.0 ;)

this sounds familiar... 2008.0 profile :twisted: maybe 2007.1 will actually make it into 2010.0. just fooling.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gerard van Vuuren wrote:
Hi all,
A gui installer will put it in the same league as ubuntu sabayon etc.
Gerard.

If the only thing seperating gentoo from ubuntu is how it's installed then I would go with ubuntu.
Why wouldn't a gui installer be wanted? Just to keep noobs away?
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AidanJT wrote:
Which was in a worse state than beta1.


I had some problems with a computer with that, and I used the SystemRescueCD instead and everything is fine.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. I'm using beta2 and it works great.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Whats holding up the 2008.0 release? Reply with quote

beta2 was released on 29th April 2008. So whats holding up the path to 2008.0 release? I checked bugzilla and there seemed to be no critical bugs against beta2. I could see 11 bugs with priorites normal & below

https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=Gentoo+Linux&version=2008.0_beta2&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=

As per the roadmap, 2008.0 was planned with a release in March 2008. I cannot find anything on the 'releng' website or mailing list as to whats holding the 2008.0 release, or whats its revised roadmap is. Can someone here please educate me?

And is there anything I could do to help? Do beta2 need more testing? Or does it need more resources to fix existing bugs?

PS, i'm a longtime gentoo user, and i know that "releases" arent that critical to gentoo since its a "rolling" platform. but still ...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

merged above post here. please search before posting.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if anyone caught this or not yet, but the release schedule was finally updated to reflect the new target release date of June 23rd. (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2008.0/index.xml) It looks like the devs are managing to keep it moving along this time and we'll hopefully get to see the 2008.0 release on the 23rd.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and Snapshot freezes and doc updates are still 'in progress', which means releng are still way off schedule, again.
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