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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think @rmh3093 said that he didnt do a benchmark, but I can confirm that w/ -zenmm2 I can really load up my system doing emerges, amarok, web browsing, mysql stuff, etc and the system stay pretty usable even under really heavy load. I will say it boots very fast, but it could be just the placebo effect.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mroconnor wrote:
I think @rmh3093 said that he didnt do a benchmark, but I can confirm that w/ -zenmm2 I can really load up my system doing emerges, amarok, web browsing, mysql stuff, etc and the system stay pretty usable even under really heavy load. I will say it boots very fast, but it could be just the placebo effect.


Ok..but I can't compile anything ATM, as it seems the Zen Menu was merged badly...again.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think @rmh3093 said that he didnt do a benchmark, but I can confirm that w/ -zenmm2 I can really load up my system doing emerges, amarok, web browsing, mysql stuff, etc and the system stay pretty usable even under really heavy load. I will say it boots very fast, but it could be just the placebo effect.


Ok..but I can't compile anything ATM, as it seems the Zen Menu was merged badly...again.


wtf.... i need to kick some ass
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lay down the law!!!!

While you do that I am going back to -zenmm3 testing. ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lay down the law!!!!

While you do that I am going back to -zenmm3 testing. ;)


Turns out there's already a PKGBULD for mm, here...so here I go...cloning as we speak.

The whole menu thing may also be related to the fact that vm.mapped replaced vm.swappiness, with the CK patchset. That said, it's weird to have both variables floating around in the config.

Nevermind...I can't do anything until the menu's fixed, as it causes compilation errors...please post when you get it fixed, rmh. I hope you can figure out what the heck is going on.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit, I think I screwed something up here, not the menu...maybe. I had selected low latency desktop, but then went custom so I could change the swappiness...it seems that when I did this, both options stayed enabled...so...my fault? Maybe...I donno...but I just removed the Zen tunables from .config, and reloaded it and reconfigured...things are building now.

Me=dumbass. Sorry rmh.

On a better note, now that it's up and running, I have seen faster boot speed, and it seems things are perhaps a little faster here, with the regular ol' faithful zen kernel. Between my removing all of the modules I don't need (finally got the last of them out for the most part) because I have autoloading enabled, so that I don't have to wait on various scripts to run, and other things I've done, I have gotten my boot time from 28sec total to 20seconds (both with the Zen kernel). It's only 17seconds to the kdm screen.

On top of that, I have this in my /etc/sysctl.conf file...note I have 2gb of ram, so that's my reasoning behind the low swappiness.

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vm.vfs_cache_pressure=50
fs.file-max=524288
vm.swappiness=1
vm.mapped=1


For the file max attribute, I believe the equation is 256 * 4mb of ram, so 2048 * 4 = 524288 ...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dammit, I think I screwed something up here, not the menu...maybe. I had selected low latency desktop, but then went custom so I could change the swappiness...it seems that when I did this, both options stayed enabled...so...my fault? Maybe...I donno...but I just removed the Zen tunables from .config, and reloaded it and reconfigured...things are building now.

Me=dumbass. Sorry rmh.

On a better note, now that it's up and running, I have seen faster boot speed, and it seems things are perhaps a little faster here, with the regular ol' faithful zen kernel. Between my removing all of the modules I don't need (finally got the last of them out for the most part) because I have autoloading enabled, so that I don't have to wait on various scripts to run, and other things I've done, I have gotten my boot time from 28sec total to 20seconds (both with the Zen kernel). It's only 17seconds to the kdm screen.

On top of that, I have this in my /etc/sysctl.conf file...note I have 2gb of ram, so that's my reasoning behind the low swappiness.

Code:
vm.vfs_cache_pressure=50
fs.file-max=524288
vm.swappiness=1
vm.mapped=1


For the file max attribute, I believe the equation is 256 * 4mb of ram, so 2048 * 4 = 524288 ...


lol 20 seconds, install einit and join the 10s club :D
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lol 20 seconds, install einit and join the 10s club :D


Meh..I'm on Arch. I'd have to totally write every single script...I guess it may be worth it, though...nobody's ported it to Arch yet.

17s that time...although I was using nv rather than nvidia...dammit.

That's after I'm satisfied with my kernel config...zenmm comes after...I like bleeding edge, yet having everything work. Oh, and I found a fix for the nvbrightness on 64 bit builds...in the /drivers/acpi/Kbuild file, the ACPI_VIDEO (or was it VIDEO_ACPI) depends on x86 for some reason...it builds fine with that dependency turned off, and the brightness controls work...so you may want to fix that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,

I updated to zen-sources 2.6.26 and vmware-modules stopped compiling.

How can I go back to zen-sources 2.6.25-zen2?

git checkout v2.6.25-zen2
error: pathspec 'v2.6.25-zen2' did not match any file(s) known to git.

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found it in the overlay. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lol 20 seconds, install einit and join the 10s club :D


Meh..I'm on Arch. I'd have to totally write every single script...I guess it may be worth it, though...nobody's ported it to Arch yet.


not necessarily, they scripts were written to be pretty generic, avoided hard coded paths, so it should work
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll try it...

Oh...and without, I'm at 18sec cold, sometimes 16 or 17...depends on what I disable. I found that mounting my ntfs shared partition right before KDE has saved me at least 2-3 secs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any progress with 2.6.26-zen1? I am pretty excited for the new 2.6.26 patched with zen sources.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eINIT hasn't had any development in two months, and it builds and installs for me, but I'm getting a missing library error....I have everything I need...it's saying that libeinit.so.3.0.0 is missing. Furthermore, he has no description whatsoever as to how the scheme modules are supposed to be used (supposedly faster)...

Meh...I donno if I should screw with this or not.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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eINIT hasn't had any development in two months, and it builds and installs for me, but I'm getting a missing library error....I have everything I need...it's saying that libeinit.so.3.0.0 is missing. Furthermore, he has no description whatsoever as to how the scheme modules are supposed to be used (supposedly faster)...

Meh...I donno if I should screw with this or not.


its been more than 2 months actually cause they are rewriting it, but u can go to #einit for help
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ilikenwf wrote:
eINIT hasn't had any development in two months, and it builds and installs for me, but I'm getting a missing library error....I have everything I need...it's saying that libeinit.so.3.0.0 is missing. Furthermore, he has no description whatsoever as to how the scheme modules are supposed to be used (supposedly faster)...

Meh...I donno if I should screw with this or not.


its been more than 2 months actually cause they are rewriting it, but u can go to #einit for help


I'll wait until it's rewritten..I'm down to 14seconds, with a warm hdd...lol. 8secs to KDM login.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

please guys!
is zen-overlay dead? are you NOT going to update zen-sources ebuild at all?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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please guys!
is zen-overlay dead? are you NOT going to update zen-sources ebuild at all?


I was wondering the same thing. I hope this is temporary due to holiday season :roll: as I really love zen-sources and rely heavily on the overlay.

Keep up the good jobs guys! (please :wink: )
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mbar wrote:
please guys!
is zen-overlay dead? are you NOT going to update zen-sources ebuild at all?


I was wondering the same thing. I hope this is temporary due to holiday season :roll: as I really love zen-sources and rely heavily on the overlay.

Keep up the good jobs guys! (please :wink: )


the overlay hasnt been updated because we have been playing around with patches that are breaking things and there hasnt been a good enough kernel yet to make an official release out of

.....and i was on vacation for a while, and dodo is now on holliday, and wani is.....idk what he is doing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zen-sources-2.6.26-rc9-zen1 is the state of the art, for me, right now.
zenmm-sources don't like my looks, for some reasons, though i think am big deal.

thanks guys!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can confirm that HDAPS doesnt work with rc9-zen1, to get tp_smapi working in must be built-in, no module. Alas @dodo is away. :(

Other then that it is a great kernel.

@tranquilcool: -zenmm2 works PERFECTLY for me -zenmm3 hates me lol.
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it gets "better":

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[ 2072.055709] general protection fault: 0000 [2] PREEMPT SMP
[ 2072.055709] CPU 0
[ 2072.055709] Modules linked in: coretemp snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_seq_device lrw gf128mul sha256_generic uvcvideo compat_ioctl32 videodev v4l1_compat usblp ipwraw nvidia(P) iwl3945 uhci_hcd mac80211 ehci_hcd led_class ohci1394 tg3 sdhci cfg80211 mmc_core i2c_i801 ieee1394 wmi
[ 2072.055709] Pid: 20819, comm: sync Tainted: P D 2.6.26-rc9-zen1 #1
[ 2072.055709] RIP: 0010:[<ffffffff804ca06d>] [<ffffffff804ca06d>] radix_tree_gang_lookup_tag+0x5d/0x110
[ 2072.055709] RSP: 0018:ffff81003826bb58 EFLAGS: 00010202
[ 2072.055709] RAX: 00ffff8100aaa779 RBX: 0000000000000010 RCX: 0000000000000015
[ 2072.055709] RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: ffff81003826bc98 RDI: ffff81003826bd19
[ 2072.055709] RBP: ffff81003826bc98 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: ffff810027366e00
[ 2072.055709] R10: 0000000000000000 R11: ffffffff80382100 R12: ffff8100aaa77750
[ 2072.055709] R13: 0000000000000001 R14: 0000000000000000 R15: 00ffff8100aaa778
[ 2072.055709] FS: 00007fe53c1d06f0(0000) GS:ffffffff80a3f000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
[ 2072.055709] CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 000000008005003b
[ 2072.055709] CR2: 00007fe53bd70280 CR3: 0000000038265000 CR4: 00000000000006e0
[ 2072.055709] DR0: 0000000000000000 DR1: 0000000000000000 DR2: 0000000000000000
[ 2072.055709] DR3: 0000000000000000 DR6: 00000000ffff0ff0 DR7: 0000000000000400
[ 2072.055709] Process sync (pid: 20819, threadinfo ffff81003826a000, task ffff810055e3eb40)
[ 2072.055709] Stack: 0000000000000010 0000000000000046 ffffffff80abd400 0000000000000010
[ 2072.055709] ffff8100aaa77940 ffff8100aaa77750 ffff81003826bc98 ffff81003826bc98
[ 2072.055709] 0000000000000000 ffffffff80381afd ffffffff804ca570 ffff81003826bbd0
[ 2072.055709] Call Trace:
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff80381afd>] ? capture_anon_pages+0x19d/0x7a0
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff804ca570>] ? radix_valid_tag+0x0/0x10
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff80281fcd>] find_get_pages_tag+0x12d/0x140
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff80770c83>] ? mutex_lock_nested+0x223/0x2b0
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff804dd6f6>] ? __spin_lock_init+0x36/0x70
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff8038220a>] ? writepages_cryptcompress+0x10a/0x210
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff8028a383>] ? do_writepages+0x23/0x40
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff802d4d56>] ? __writeback_single_inode+0xa6/0x470
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff802d56d0>] ? generic_sync_sb_inodes+0x310/0x490
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff8036cc7f>] ? reiser4_sync_inodes+0x5f/0xf0
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff802d58fa>] ? sync_inodes_sb+0x8a/0x90
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff802d5982>] ? __sync_inodes+0x82/0xd0
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff802d59e1>] ? sync_inodes+0x11/0x40
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff802d8f42>] ? do_sync+0x12/0x60
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff802d8f9e>] ? sys_sync+0xe/0x20
[ 2072.055709] [<ffffffff8020c40b>] ? system_call_after_swapgs+0x7b/0x80
[ 2072.055709]
[ 2072.055709]
[ 2072.055709] Code: 75 1f 48 85 d2 90 0f 84 bf 00 00 00 66 90 31 db 48 83 c4 18 89 d8 5b 5d 41 5c 41 5d 41 5e 41 5f c3 49 89 c7 49 83 e7 fe 45 85 ed <41> 8b 07 48 8b 04 c5 c0 61 a5 80 48 89 04 24 74 d2 48 39 c2 77
[ 2072.055709] RIP [<ffffffff804ca06d>] radix_tree_gang_lookup_tag+0x5d/0x110
[ 2072.055709] RSP <ffff81003826bb58>
[ 2072.055709] ---[ end trace 0a513b755fa686da ]---
[ 2072.055709] reiser4[sync(20819)]: release_unix_file (fs/reiser4/plugin/file/file.c:2363)[vs-44]:
[ 2072.055709] WARNING: out of memory?
[ 2072.055709] reiser4[sync(20819)]: release_unix_file (fs/reiser4/plugin/file/file.c:2363)[vs-44]:
[ 2072.055709] WARNING: out of memory?


this was thrown after an kernel-compilation with >2.6.26-rc9-zen1 and make -j 25

in the past I couldn't even compile a kernel with more than make -j 5, after/during that it was saying i/o error and nothing was working anymore,

so 2.6.26-rc8-mm2 is the only really stable & working for me right now ... :(
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

today i thought it would be a good idea to switch from gentoo-sources 2.6.25-latest-Rx (after 2 years of using gentoo-sources) to zen-sources (git, atm 2.6.26-rc9-zen1) because after gentoo-sources switching to 2.6.26 i wasnt able to patch with unionfs und tuxonice anymore.

disregarding the the circumstances mentioned above i felt like testing another kernel, so i came across zen-sources... getting and compiling wasnt a prob, and stability isnt too.

but im getting a section mismatch while compiling the kernel w/o knowing what that means. (though the kernel is running is well :) )

it says:

Quote:
LD vmlinux.o
MODPOST vmlinux.o
WARNING: vmlinux.o(.text+0xca82): Section mismatch in reference from the function cpu_exit_clear() to the function .cpuinit.text:cpu_uninit()
The function cpu_exit_clear() references
the function __cpuinit cpu_uninit().
This is often because cpu_exit_clear lacks a __cpuinit
annotation or the annotation of cpu_uninit is wrong.


is this a bad thing? and could this be related to my kernel-config? (see here)
As having posted my config is there anyone disposed to take a look at it? im not sure if ive dismissed some of the zen-related performance-options in my config. that would be really great...


refering to my prob not being able to patch with unionfs i found out that there is aunionfs/afs/aufs or whatever ( ;) ) included by default. does this work exactly the same?
and do i have to wait until a more stable release of zen-sources to be able to use it, because the is this info in the config-menu:

Quote:
*** These options are for 2.6.25-zen1-07742-gb1b47da ***


because actually we are at 2.6.26 i didnt test it...

mroconnor wrote:
thanks @rmh2093!

Not sure if it is a placebo effect but I am recompiling glibc and -19 niceness and using amarok, web browsing, have a few ssh open, and I have hardly any bumps in amarok. Playing very smoothly. With firefox3, amarok and thunderbird open on xfce I am using 620MB RAM with swap only being touched about 4MB. This kernel feels nice, like I said probably placebo but not sure.

Now if I could get conky to stop stealing +/-25% CPU I would be happy lol. ;)


u still have the same behavior with conky?
i could observe that i have kind of the same problem on fluxbox... when putting "conky &" to "~/.fluxbox/startup" there are alsways conky and grep using up to 50 % of one of my two cores; i actually never really noticed that load, but that seems a an explanation to that message "grep: broken pipe" on my console after shutting down fluxbox. i also noticed that this does not happen, if i start conky within fluxbox...


thanx, mantoo
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my experiences, it's fairly common for zen-sources to spit out a few warning messages while compiling. I generally just ignore them and don't worry about it as long as it compiles and runs successfully, although one of these times I may log the warnings and report them here.

I am not terribly familiar with aufs, but from what I gather, it acts to the user in a way that is very similar to unionfs.

The 2.6.26 kernels can be found in the new repo at zen-sources.org. For git access, see the first post in this thread.

I don't know anything about conky; I generally use gkrellm for the same purpose.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AUFS always breaks with me (probably my cflags) I don't need it anyway, so I have it disabled.

Oh...and the ACPI video module isn't broken for x86_64 anymore, it needs to be moved from the Kconfig.debug file to wherever it should be, and not depend on x86 anymore...I think it goes in drivers/acpi/Kconfig ...

I just need to know how to get Kpowersave to recognize and use this dimming function, now (bios controlled, methinks)...
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